Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!ptsfa!lll-lcc!seismo!brl-adm!brl-sem!ron From: ron@brl-sem.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.video,rec.audio,rec.ham-radio,rec.autos.tech Subject: Re: Mobile 120VAC sources Message-ID: <654@brl-sem.ARPA> Date: Thu, 26-Feb-87 12:43:48 EST Article-I.D.: brl-sem.654 Posted: Thu Feb 26 12:43:48 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Feb-87 06:44:12 EST References: <278@dopey.AMD.COM> <672@twitch.UUCP> <3235@elroy.UUCP> Organization: Electronic Brain Research Lab Lines: 41 Xref: utgpu sci.electronics:324 rec.video:580 rec.audio:737 rec.ham-radio:588 rec.autos.tech:439 In article <3235@elroy.UUCP>, bob@elroy.UUCP (Bob Yen) writes: > an inverter); I need some input on a good unit. The ones by Tripp-Lite > put out square waves, whose RF radiation screws up TV reception. > I was wondering how the mobile amateur radio people handle 120vac > input requirements (or is everything 12v). I would think a home > stereo + inverter would give better fidelity $ for $, at the > expense of some inconvenience. > Well these days everything is transistorized so even if you have a fixed transceiver chances are that that wall plug is connected to a power supply that puts out low voltage DC. Back in the (good?) old days, when tubes were popular there were several methods of getting the high voltage necessary. The cheapest probably was the vibrator. Popular in old dash board car radios as well. The vibrator turned the DC into a rather crude (yes square wave) AC, which could then be run through a transformer. Mobile transmitting equipment was sometimes equipped with a "dynamotor," essentially a 12V DC motor with an AC generator on it. This of course made sine waves but was big and clunky and since it had moving parts was more prone to failure. Enter the marvel transistor: They hadn't quite managed to make transistor power amplifiers yet, but they were able to make transistor multivibrators. This (as you've descrived) is the square wave generator that is the heart of the inverter. The way to avoid the emmissions, lots of filtering. Even traditional SCR dimmer circuits put out a lot of noise that would be intollerable without a filter on the output. However, artifacts of the T-power were still present, in that you could here in the signal the frequency of the vibrator which used to change pitch with fluctuations in the voltage of the car electrical system. (Of course, even DC rigs often pick up whine from the cars alternator). I suspect if you really wanted to you could modify a cheap intverter to be much less annoying with a few RF chokes. By the way, the output filters on even the best Theatrical Dimmers (where you need to keen the buzz out of the sound system) are pretty simple. Just a few turns of the output wire around a toroid core on it's way to the connector. -Ron