Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!decvax!decwrl!labrea!navajo!billw From: billw@navajo.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.misc Subject: the trouble with universities Message-ID: <1411@navajo.STANFORD.EDU> Date: Wed, 25-Feb-87 20:05:09 EST Article-I.D.: navajo.1411 Posted: Wed Feb 25 20:05:09 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Feb-87 00:22:47 EST References: <254@uhmanoa.UUCP> <73600005@uiucdcsp> Organization: Stanford University Lines: 29 Actually, there are two problems with universities: One is that they are too job/career oriented - you can get a degree in CS, for example, where all you've really learned is how to program; You can be an EE without having much hope of picking up new and/or old technology. The other problem is that they are not sufficiently job/career oriented. It's quite possible to get even an advanced CS degree and still be unable to program your way out of a paper bag, or be totally mystified by anything not closely resembling the system you are used to; or to be an EE without ever having learned how to solder. ==== These are all technical/science majors however, leaving out the majority of college educated people with their degrees in art history or philosophy or english or whatever; leaving them rather unprepared for much of anything. The single most depressing point is that science and engineering majors are usually required to take the same early english/humanities courses as their liberal arts counterparts, but if a BA type has to take any science or math AT ALL, it is usually a very watered-down version of what BS types have to take. If you think that I am wrong, get a copy of the "Trivial Pursuit" game, and compare the difficulty of the "science and nature" questions with the questions from any other category... BillW