Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!mcnc!rti-sel!dg_rtp!meissner From: meissner@dg_rtp.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: 64 Vs 32 Message-ID: <1498@dg_rtp.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Mar-87 11:25:12 EST Article-I.D.: dg_rtp.1498 Posted: Mon Mar 23 11:25:12 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Mar-87 02:05:44 EST References: <3810013@nucsrl.UUCP> <28200016@ccvaxa> <1308@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> <3436@iuvax.UUCP> <5954@amdahl.UUCP> Reply-To: meissner@dg_rtp.UUCP (Michael Meissner) Organization: Data General (Languages @ Research Triangle Park, NC.) Lines: 29 In article <5954@amdahl.UUCP> chuck@amdahl.UUCP (Charles Simmons) writes: > In article <3436@iuvax.UUCP> bobmon@iuvax.UUCP (Che' Flamingo) writes: > >davidsen@kbsvax.steinmetz.UUCP (William E. Davidsen Jr) writes: > >> > >>etc. The 68020 and 80386 have enough power to run large > >>businesses, schools, city and county government, etc. > > Kinda makes you wonder why the Fortune 500 spends on the order of > $5,000,000 for an IBM mainframe or Amdahl mainframe when 68020 > based workstations can be had for on the order of $50,000. While the 68020, 80386 (and whatever the latest 32*32 National makes) are fine in their niches, they are not up to the task of running a moderately large business. Yes the address space is reasonable, but that is not all that goes into making a computer. Ever see a DASD disk farm? (a disk farm is a roomful of large disk drives, and possibly a larger room behind it of cartridges, tapes, etc -- these things store massize amounts of data). The thing that the big guys specialize in is I/O -- with intelligent controllers [channels] offloading the main CPU. I seriously doubt a 68020 workstation could put 100 or so 500M disk drives on it (or if you could, what the response time would be). Data General is a supermini maker, and the largest disk configuration we support is on the order of 15 gigabytes (it may be higher or lower, but that is a ballpark figure). That is a small compared to the large mainframes (it also costs near $1M just for the disks, not to mention the processor needed to support those disks). -- Michael Meissner, Data General Uucp: ...mcnc!rti-sel!dg_rtp!meissner It is 11pm, do you know what your sendmail and uucico are doing?