Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!caip!brisco From: brisco@caip.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Cheating on Programming Assignments Message-ID: <4161@caip.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Fri, 3-Apr-87 15:13:54 EST Article-I.D.: caip.4161 Posted: Fri Apr 3 15:13:54 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Apr-87 04:56:22 EST References: <248@rruxa.UUCP> <2625@phri.UUCP> <843@fmsrl7.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 30 >Not that I want to start a major debate but what is the real problem >with students collaborating on programming assignments? In the real >world, how many professional programmers are expected to develop code >without talking to another programmer? (Just look at usenet traffic.) >The exchange of ideas between students fosters a feeling of working >with co-workers, not competing with them (as opposed to "curving" exam >scores). Not to reply to someone who doesn't want to start a major debate, *but*, I used to feel this - i.e. why have (student) programmers competing against each other, when (in the `real' world) they will need to learn to share programs and parts of programs. On the surface, pitting students against one another seems counter-productive -- however, there is a need to verify that each and every student is capable of making a worthwhile contribution to a project. Admittedly, as an undergraduate, the most difficult course I had was one where we were required to do a project in a group of 3 or more members. The project itself wasn't hard, but getting together along with, as well as coordinating a project, was difficult. Unless someone can make sure that the student has (at least) a resonable aptitude for programming (and not just an aptitude for cramming for exams) than I doubt that solo programs will go away. Tp. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- - ARPA: Brisco@rutgers - - UUCP: (ihnp4!ut-sally, allegra!packard) !caip!brisco - ----------------------------------------------------------