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From: lkw@titan.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Re: Questions on software for micro labs
Message-ID: <182@titan.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 3-Apr-87 18:37:29 EST
Article-I.D.: titan.182
Posted: Fri Apr  3 18:37:29 1987
Date-Received: Tue, 7-Apr-87 23:37:40 EST
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Reply-To: lkw@csun.UUCP (Larry Wake)
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Keywords: Cheap, easy, legal, foolproof, are we dreaming?
Summary: The Answers

This is the summary of responses to the question "how does your
university handle distributing DOS in micro labs"?  The answers
probably aren't too startling: of the 5 responses, the consensus seemed
to be that once you've bought a copy per machine, your legal
responsibility is taken care of, so getting it to the students then
becomes a logistical matter.  It looks like we'll probably have lab
assistants who will check out copies of DOS, which the students then
may copy, with all sorts of stipulations posted that the copies are to
be used ONLY on machines licensed for that particular version of DOS.

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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 87 07:58:09 CST
From: mark edwards <hplabs!rutgers!uwvax!uwmacc!edwards>

  We have several mic labs and a show room. The show room provides a 
  copy of dos for each machine, not the original. If they disappear
  then they are lost, you lose the money and time that the disk cost
  to copy. Since the copy of this unit was lost you make another one,
  that is what the master is there for anyways. Since you have bought
  a master for each machine, I see no problem with copying it and
  putting it away for safe keeping.

  Another method would be to have your students buy there own copy.
  After all it only costs the price of an expensive textbook and
  will be useful for several semesters at least. You student can
  then sell it if he/she decides computing is not what they like.

  mark
-- 
    edwards@unix.macc.wisc.edu
    {allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!edwards
    UW-Madison, 1210 West Dayton St., Madison WI 53706

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From: psivax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!seismo!rochester!ur-tut!akk2 (Atul Kacker)

What seems to have been done here at University of Rochester is that
they (the powers that be) have bought a copy of DOS for each Public PC
and that's that. The microcomputer information center here then just hands
out copies of DOS to students for free.

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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 87 17:23:14 PST
From: hplabs!rutgers!trent@csvax.caltech.edu (Ray Trent)

We don't have that problem here, because all of our machines have hard
disks now, but in your case, I would suggest that you just use the
checkout system. I guarantee that within 1 week, everyone will have
their own copy of the DOS disk(s) anyway, and your problems will be
over. (believe me, fighting software piracy will cause you more trouble
than it saves you)
-- 
<this space for rent>
					../ray\..
 (trent@csvax.caltech.edu, rat@caltech.bitnet, ...seismo!cit-vax!trent)

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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 87 08:21:40 EST
From: tj <hplabs!seismo!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!tj>

 always thought the best way to handle this problem was to get a board
that plugged into a slot of the IBM PC that was a ROM disk. The thing
would install itself as a ram disk as the BIOS goes out doing its
POST, then the system would boot from the ram disk which was actually
4 27512 eproms with DOS loaded into them and maybe a few other utilities
in the 256K ROM disk space available. I know there are ROM disk boards 
available but I have never bother to set one up like this.
tj

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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 87 
From: cavrak (Steve Cavrak)  [University of Vermont]
Message-Id: <8703301950.AA20815@uvm-gen.UUCP

We have several 100's of ATT-6300's.  Every lab has a proctor and/or a
counselor.  One duty is to "check out" a system disk.  This is sort of
a soft chain.  We don't worry about copying disks because every PC came
with the software and there can not be more that one user per pc.

We bought our PC-Write disks directly from QuickSoft, and next year will
also buy their quick guide.  For communications, we use Kermit.  The only
sticky piece of software is Turbo Pascal, but since we got a good price,
that doesn't seem to have been a problem.

We also had stickers saying "The Law is Clear ... Reproducing computer
software without proper authorization violates the U.S. Copyright Law.
It is a Federal offense." printed up and posted on all p.c.'s ... pretty
much like the library stamp ..
-- 
Larry Wake                   uucp:   {ihnp4 | hplabs | psivax}!csun!lkw
CSUN Computer Center         BITNET: RETPLKW@CALSTATE
Northridge, CA 91330         ARPA:   RETPLKW%CALSTATE@WISCVM.WISC.EDU