Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!ICST-CMR.ARPA!rbj From: rbj@ICST-CMR.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: sex.1 Message-ID: <8703250748.AA13590@icst-cmr.arpa.ARPA> Date: Wed, 25-Mar-87 02:48:47 EST Article-I.D.: icst-cmr.8703250748.AA13590 Posted: Wed Mar 25 02:48:47 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Mar-87 03:33:32 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 83 ? Trash like that does not belong on this ( widely public ) network. ? If you must, sent it over private channels ( via mail ). I have not seen it on the network. It is available only by seeking it out, thru ftp, uucp, or by purchasing a tape. ? I am also calling on others who feel as I do to post their opinions. They probably will, but they won't mean anything more than yours. ? If you want to condone rape and other acts of degradation please do it ? on a private channel. This is no place for that. No one is condoning anything. Humor is basically painful, a juxtaposition of the normal and the absurd. Think about it. Sometimes it steps over the line and gets a bit offensive to some people. That is regrettable, but the price of humor. ? I personally don't want to look at that awful stuff and call for all others ? who feel the same way I do to voice their opinions. So when you looked at the `manual', what did you do? Did you quit looking at it after a few lines, or did you read all the `options' to justify more indignation. ? Let the record show: ? ? I feel that all forms of degradation ( including pornography ) ... Why do you feel that pornography is degrading? It is interesting that many people allow their children to regularly watch TV or movies depicting violence, death, and angry unhappy people but would be horrified to expose them to X rated movies where consenting adults are obviously having a good time. If you can stand seeing guns that shoot death, why not guns that shoot life? ? ... are only symptoms, NOT the problem. An interesting point, which might have been even more interesting had you stated rather than implied it. ? I do not feel we should sensor such materials on the basis of ? offensiveness because laws could be used against politically offensive ? ideas given certain political conditions. Like sex. In the case of this `manual' entry, it is the interplay between certain sexual acts and the unix operating system. For example, pedophilia isn't much more funny than rape, but the idea of pairing it with the `child process' concept is amusing. Likewise with the necrophilia first killing it's target process. I doubt whether Mr. Stallman chases jailbait, and I'm sure he wouldn't be caught dead with a necrophiliac. ? I do feel that it is our Gd given right to choose ( discriminate ) ? what we shall expose ourselves and our families to. You have no control over what you are exposed to, only how far you explore it. If you see of hear something offensive, you can only direct your attention elsewhere. ? (discrimination on basis of race, color, religion, and gender is stupid and ? illegal ) Under certain circumstances. ? David William Preisler ? Assistant System Administrator ? phone: (718) 996-7375 (h) ? 780-5905 (w) Brooklyn College ? Computer Science Department ? electronic mail: c/o rm. 0300 NE ? preis@bc-cis.UUCP Bedford Avenue and Ave H ? calbc289@cunyvm.BITNET Brooklyn, New York 11210 ? ? A NYC Judge: I can't define pornograpy, but I know it when I see it... So do I. But I bet we disagree on what it is. As for my opinion, I think it was wrong to distribute it this way. Please rename it to sex.6; sex is a game. (Root Boy) Jim "Just Say Yes" Cottrell Well, I'm INVISIBLE AGAIN.. I might as well pay a visit to the LADIES ROOM...