Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!ut-sally!utah-cs!crum From: crum@utah-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.periphs Subject: Re: Fancy Frame Buffers ? Message-ID: <4401@utah-cs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Mar-87 14:23:59 EST Article-I.D.: utah-cs.4401 Posted: Tue Mar 24 14:23:59 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 26-Mar-87 06:32:37 EST References: <615@rna.UUCP> Reply-To: crum@utah-cs.UUCP (Gary L. Crum) Organization: University of Utah CS Dept Lines: 48 Keywords: anti-aliasing PS390 shadowfax Xref: utgpu comp.graphics:407 comp.periphs:293 Summary: The E&S PS390 does anti-aliasing in hardware. In article <615@rna.UUCP> dan@rna.UUCP (Dan Ts'o) writes: >objects, would be difficult. Question: are there any machines that do >anti-aliasing on the fly ? The Evans and SutherLand "Shadowfax" project has developed a chipset that includes anti-aliased line drawing capability. The new E&S PS 390 "workstation" will have this capability (in addition to the interactive 3D transformation and depth-queueing that E&S PS systems are known for). The PS 390 will be a raster system, whereas other E&S PS systems use calligraphic technology. I saw the Shadowfax chipset in action last Wednesday after an ACM talk by one of the project engineers, Scott R. Nelson. The testbed that I saw consisted of 56 1024x768 bit planes and the custom chips on cards plugged into a DEC MicroVAX. The test software demonstrated perspective views of color wireframe images being manipulated interactively. The test software allowed one side of the image to be rendered with anti-aliased lines while the other was left without anti-aliasing. Actually I saw two testbed systems, one controlled by a MicroVAX running Ultrix, the other controlled by a MicroVAX running VMS. I was told that the Shadowfax chip that draws into raster memory can support a resolution of 2048x2048. The chipset uses 32-bit fixed point representation to maintain the x, y, z, and w coordinates of line endpoints through most of its hardware pipeline, just as the PS 350 does. The current Shadowfax chipset does not have the capability of anti-aliasing polygon edges, nor can it manipulate curves in hardware without using some polyline approximation of those curves. I don't really like to discuss marketing considerations like cost, but I think that it was mentioned that the meeting that a base PS 390 system should cost somewhere around $40K. I'm not sure if Scott reads this newsgroup, but I know that E&S is on the net. Perhaps someone there could correct anything misleading that I have said here, and give us some some PS 390 performance figures (which may not really mean much). Do any of you know if other manufacturers are working on CAD systems that will do fast anti-aliasing? I suppose that the technology used in broadcast video engineering could also be of interest here (Bausch?). Bravo, E&S... You are leading CAD in some very interesting directions. Gary L. Crum University of Utah Computer Science Department arpa: crum@cs.utah.edu uucp: ...{seismo,ut-sally,devax,ihnp4 (among others)}!utah-cs!crum