Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-unix!hplabs!hpcea!hpccc!hpl-opus!jewett From: jewett@hpl-opus.HP.COM (Bob Jewett) Newsgroups: comp.lsi Subject: Re: Josephson Junction computers (was: Want to bet he wins a Nobel Prize?) Message-ID: <2660002@hpl-opus.HP.COM> Date: Mon, 16-Mar-87 12:22:23 EST Article-I.D.: hpl-opus.2660002 Posted: Mon Mar 16 12:22:23 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Mar-87 00:45:05 EST References: <492@cpocd2.UUCP> Organization: HP Labs, Instrument Tech. Dept. Lines: 59 > JJ gates can be made to match transmission lines Because the currents are ~0.2mA, and voltages about 2mV for impedances of about 10 ohms, and power dissipation of roughly 1uW. > At liquid helium temperatures, it's possible to use superfluid > effects in the LHe to cool them, allowing 3D stacking of die. The present excitement is due to the higher temperature superconductors (a thin film has been fabricated at Stanford, Tc=35K) where superfluidity doesn't occur. > Given a computer that consumes milliwatts IBM projected 8 watts for a 370-equivalent with ~3ns cycle time. > simplified, even with Carnot efficiencies included. The typical power multiplier (power_room_temp/power_He) is 2000, or 1000 for very efficient refrigerators to 4.2K, giving a projected room temperature AC requirement of the hypothetical LHe 370 of 16kW. > (Note: superconducting wires are still dispersive - at a Terahertz or so). IBM was able to maintain ~100ps risetimes from chip to circuit carrier. The problem was inductance and crosstalk in the pins to the circuit carrier. This implies a useful inter-chip bandwidth of 3GHz. > With proper design and close attention to device matching, a JJ circuit > shouldn't be much harder to design than an NMOS circuit. IBM had (and Japan has) a lot of bright poeple working on circuit design. None of them has come up with a design that can tolerate a +-50% error in junction current levels. > However, this isn't stopping Fujitsu, who just built a 16 bit ALU slice > with JJ technology. The circuit that Fujitsu reported on at the ISSCC had only 900 gates. It was not clear from either the presentation or the Digest paper whether they ever got all 900 gates to work on one chip. Their reported timing measurement was (using their more conservative number) 1.7ns for 16 bit carry propagation, but this was not measured in the ALU itself. It was measured in a special 36-gate test circuit that duplicated the critical delay path. > But when those schemes hit the wall (and on some problems they will), > JJs may be the way out. IBM dropped JJs when it appeared that there would be further delays and the speed advantage over semiconductor circuits would only be a factor of 3. When the project started, that factor was larger than 10. IBM did demonstrate a cross-section model (CSM) of a signal processor. It ran with a 3ns cycle time, including memory fetch time. The I/O, cooling, shielding and interconnect problems all seemed to have been solved. > Keith Lofstrom Bob Jewett hplabs!jewett