Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rochester!ur-tut!ur-valhalla!micropen!dave From: dave@micropen (David F. Carlson) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Complexity in microcomputers Message-ID: <165@micropen> Date: Thu, 19-Mar-87 13:44:22 EST Article-I.D.: micropen.165 Posted: Thu Mar 19 13:44:22 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Mar-87 04:59:15 EST Organization: Micropen Direct Writing Systems, Pittsford, NY Lines: 38 Keywords: system administration MSDOS microcomputers I have been reading a lot about the *new* ADOS for IBM PCs and I have several good questions. My perspective is as a system administrator on two UNIX systems that happen to be IBM PC AT's (Microport). Here's my beef. It used to be that microcomputers were pretty toylike. Back in my CP/M days the biggest thing about system admin was making sure that your lastest and greatest BDOS hacks were bootable by the machine. MS-DOS similarly is simple. Maybe a backup or two every few months. Done with your machine--kill the power and turn it off. Simple. My management of these two UNIX boxes, which have several developers doing coding (including myself), is as difficult as the two VAX 750s I used to manage in my last job. UUCP, Usenet, mod.sources, cron and log file overseeing, file system preening, nasty motd's for users to clean up their directories, etc, etc. There are people (who read the net a lot I'm told) that do system admin for a living. This is a very much sideline for me--and it shows. My point is that the executive who now kills his PC when he's done will have an entirely different beast when these 386/UNIX/XENIX/ADOS boxes arrive. Communication (24 hours a day) will be necessary-- commonplace. Best download rates, etc. But who is going to manage this cacophony of machines? I find it hard to believe that Mr. corporate-America-middle-manager is going to learn the guts of uucp, or how to apply a patch to netnews. By the amount of trouble I've had trying to get people to use their d&$m passwords here, I find it hard to believe that computer discipline will be immediate. Any solutions or do you all think I've found a non-problem? -- David F. Carlson, Micropen, Inc. ...!{seismo}!rochester!ur-valhalla!micropen!dave "The faster I go, the behinder I get." --Lewis Carroll