Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-lcc!lll-crg!hoptoad!jim From: jim@hoptoad.uucp (Jim Joyce) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: uucp source copyright status - IMPORTANT Message-ID: <1920@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Sun, 22-Mar-87 15:40:49 EST Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1920 Posted: Sun Mar 22 15:40:49 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Mar-87 01:17:13 EST References: <480@gouldsd.UUCP> <43183@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> <17953@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <696@brl-sem.ARPA> Reply-To: jim@hoptoad.UUCP (Jim Joyce) Distribution: comp.os.minix Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 21 Keywords: copyright uucp uucico Xref: mnetor comp.os.minix:447 comp.mail.uucp:359 The UNIX source has an interesting history -- it was not always trade secret! Version 5, I believe, was copyright. This means (if they followed through and filed their copyright claim) that at least two pages of source code were printed and sent to the Library of Congress by AT&T. The legality of claiming trade secret after such action has always seemed to me spurious. Publication of Maurice Bach's The Design of the UNIX Operating System seems yet another indication that UNIX's trade secret status is over. AT&T has told me that the trade secret was not simply the code, but the algorithms. Bach has divulged the algorithms. I have been told that trade secrets must be kept secret; but if over a thousand people in various organizations know something, is it still secret? Some lawyers I have talked with argue yes, and others say no. Naturally, I go along with the trade secret behavior because I do not want to be the test case for AT&T. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. But: My info about AT&T's posture on trade secret came from Otis Wilson and Bob Guffey of AT&T Licensing. And No, they wouldn't put anything in writing.