Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!seismo!mcvax!jack From: jack@mcvax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: uucp source copyright status - IMPORTANT Message-ID: <7326@boring.mcvax.cwi.nl> Date: Wed, 1-Apr-87 06:12:53 EST Article-I.D.: boring.7326 Posted: Wed Apr 1 06:12:53 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Apr-87 08:57:08 EST References: <480@gouldsd.UUCP> <43183@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> Reply-To: jack@boring.UUCP (Jack Jansen) Distribution: comp.os.minix Organization: AMOEBA project, CWI, Amsterdam Lines: 24 Keywords: uucp uucico kermit Xref: utgpu comp.os.minix:474 comp.mail.uucp:394 In article <122@njitsc1.UUCP> bc@njitsc1.UUCP (Bill Cheswick) writes: >In article <7319@boring.mcvax.cwi.nl> jack@boring.UUCP (Jack Jansen) writes: >> >>The point is, why should we use those icky uucp protocols that are >>hardly documented, and unused except in some proprietary sofware > >Because it is faster. Compare the transfer speeds of uucp and kermit: you only >get about half your baud rate in kermit file transfers. uucp does better. > If you only count the time uucp takes to transfer bytes, this is true. However, if you add the time taken to deposit files in the appropriate places, *which kermit does during conversation*, things get far worse. I'm not sure how fancy uucp's like honey-danber handle this, but one of the gross misfeatures of most uucp's is that they deliver files while they're still eating phone time. This, combined with the fact that, for small files, the overhead is enourmous (two files transmitted for each tiny mail message) makes me dislike uucp. Moreover, although I said kermit, you could as easily think of zmodem, or something else. -- Jack Jansen, jack@cwi.nl (or jack@mcvax.uucp) The shell is my oyster.