Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!lll-lcc!unisoft!mtxinu!ed From: ed@mtxinu.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.sources.d Subject: Re: UUCP source code is protected. End of discussion. Message-ID: <319@mtxinu.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Mar-87 17:05:37 EST Article-I.D.: mtxinu.319 Posted: Mon Mar 23 17:05:37 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Mar-87 05:26:11 EST References: <1019@osiris.UUCP> <15442@sun.uucp> Reply-To: ed@mtxinu.UUCP (Ed Gould) Organization: mt Xinu, Berkeley, CA Lines: 33 Xref: utgpu comp.mail.uucp:348 comp.sources.d:486 >> It was pointed out to me that the licensing agreement covers the >>entire distribution as trade secrets, but I don't see how that works when >>public domain source is included with proprietary source (for example Mike >>Muus' "ping" program). > >AT&T doesn't distribute "ping". Berkeley distributes "ping". >Everything on BSD distributions that comes from AT&T source code (and >yes, kids, this includes large chunks of the kernel, even in 4.3BSD) >is protected by trade secret. The legal advice I've recieved over the years says: Almost, but not quite. In order to cover their collective asses and not become embroiled in controversies over whether or not any particular code was AT&T proprietary, the Regents of the University of California, in the license *they* require of all recipients of BSD tapes, have the licensee agree that *all* of the material on the tape is to be used in accordance with the terms of the licensee's AT&T license. This means that BSD licensees are obligated to treat all of the material on the BSD tape *as if* it were AT&T trade secret information. Ping may well be in the public domain. But if the only copy you have of it is one obtained from the BSD tape, then it's covered by the license. If you receive one from elsewhere - without restrictions - then you may be free to redistribute it. Consult a lawyer for real advice. -- Ed Gould mt Xinu, 2560 Ninth St., Berkeley, CA 94710 USA {ucbvax,decvax}!mtxinu!ed +1 415 644 0146 "A man of quality is not threatened by a woman of equality."