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From: lachac@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Gerard Lachac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: A1000 -> A2000 expansion box?
Message-ID: <10222@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>
Date: Wed, 18-Mar-87 00:40:45 EST
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Posted: Wed Mar 18 00:40:45 1987
Date-Received: Thu, 19-Mar-87 04:42:45 EST
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Reply-To: lachac@topaz.rutgers.edu (Gerard Lachac)
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
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In article <762@hp-sdd.HP.COM> nick@hp-sdd.UUCP (Nick Flor) writes:

>First off, let me state that I'm assuming that the A2000 expansion
>slots are different from the zorro slots.

Your right, they are different.  Different size, and a slightly different
pin out on the card.

>>could be said to have "lost" anything! Therefore, there's no reason
>>for me to be upset about the A2000.

>You're losing the ability to buy cheap hardware.

Only if you don;'t lay out the initial cash for the card cage.  It seems
your just upset you don't have a card cage, and have to pay for it.
This is the REAL world, you bought a 1000 without a card cage.  All you
have to due is shell out the bucks for a card cage, and you get TOTAL
A2000 fuctionality, if the card cage accepts A2000 cards.

>Mike, why in the world would anyone make hardware for the A1000 after
>the A2000 comes out.  And even those that are stupid enough to do so
>will charge OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH PRICES (low volume reasons etc.).  
>Will you think before you spew.

Gee, I think they still make hardware for the TRS Model I.  There was a big
market for that after the Model III came out.  People with Model I's were
anxious to by stuff that made their machines like the III.  There are over
100k A1000's out there.  Hardware manufacturer's aren't going to ignore that
market!!

>>Nick, wake up. There isn't any "extra functionality" in the A2000.
>>It's got more memory inside, but no software will notice that.

>Mike, get a life.
>I meant extra hardware functionality.  The very idea that I meant
>extra software functionality is ABSURD.  Notice, one of my pro's
>for subsidizing was that 3rd party hardware developers and commmodore
>will have a larger customer base to draw revenues from.

But Nick, you ignored Mike's point.  Software doesn't care whether the mem
is on the motherboard or on the bus, as long as it's there.  The extra mem
on board the A2000 makes absolutely no difference.  I can buy an Alegra now
and get the one meg the A2000 comes with.

>Get a life.  I was waiting for the prices of expansion boxes to go
>DOWN.  With the introduction of the A2000, producing A1000 boxes
>in low volume will keep the prices up.  Also, think about this -- would
>you go into business producing boxes for a machine that has been
>discontinued?  

Damn straight I would!! Think of all those A1000 owners who want a card cage
to make there A1000's into A2000's!!

So far the A1000 has not been discontinued (to my knowledge).  As I said
a 100k user base is hard to ignore.  If you were going to buy an expansion
box anyway, why not buy the one that offers you A2000 card compatibility.
So far 2 companies are making such boxes.


>No sh*t, the subsidy has to come from somewhere, but if the above holds
>true, then your subsidy will be paid off and you'll get a little extra.
>They don't necessarily have to take pay cuts to finance this subsidy.
>There are banks in this country.  
 
To whom CBM owes PLENTY of money.

'nuff said...


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