Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!clyde!cbatt!ukma!sean From: sean@ukma.ms.uky.csnet (Sean Casey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: UNIX from HELL (It's worse than you think) Message-ID: <6102@ukma.ms.uky.csnet> Date: Wed, 18-Mar-87 05:00:04 EST Article-I.D.: ukma.6102 Posted: Wed Mar 18 05:00:04 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Mar-87 03:33:52 EST References: <1439@cadovax.UUCP> Sender: news@ukma.ms.uky.csnet Reply-To: sean@ukma.ms.uky.csnet (Sean Casey) Organization: The Leaning Tower of Patterson Office @ The Univ. of KY Lines: 38 In article <1439@cadovax.UUCP> keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) writes: >we can make a few statments about UNIX: > > 1) Requires HARD DISK of at least 15Mb. You couldn't GIVE me Unix unless I had a hard disk of at least 40 Megs. I'd rather have 80-120. Unix systems fill up their disks FAST, especially when they have access to Usenet. Unfortunately, I can buy a new Amiga for the price of a 40 meg hard disk, and a pretty well decked out Amiga to boot. This cost must be factored into the cost of having a Unix Amiga. If hard drives ever approach PC hard drive prices, having a Unix Amiga might be an affordable reality. > 2) Can run, but you won't want to use it with less than 1Mb RAM. I second this. Myself, I'd want about 4 megabytes. When you add up the kernal size, disk buffering, numerous background system processes, and stuff you occasionally run from cron, you run out of 1 meg pretty fast. Of course, if you have a 68020 and mmu, you can runs things virtual demand paged if you like. This brings me to another point. It might be possible to run Unix on a flat 68000. They've done it on IBM PC-XTs, so a 68000 is a step up. But without memory protection, every time the guru visits (assuming you can run amigados stuff too), you crash and have to fsck the disks. There's NO WAY IN HELL I am going to sit and wait twenty minutes for my file system to be repaired every single time a program crashes. This of course means that either you learn to like waiting or you pay for an '020, mmu, and memory fast enough to keep up (if you buy an 8 MHz 68020, I'll personally shoot you (do they make them that slow?)). The bottom line is: You have to pay Pay PAY for a feasable Unix system. Sean -- =========================================================================== Sean Casey UUCP: cbosgd!ukma!sean CSNET: sean@ms.uky.csnet ARPA: ukma!sean@anl-mcs.arpa BITNET: sean@UKMA.BITNET