Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Expansion product woes Message-ID: <1606@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Date: Tue, 31-Mar-87 14:37:26 EST Article-I.D.: cbmvax.1606 Posted: Tue Mar 31 14:37:26 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 2-Apr-87 05:39:21 EST References: <371@sbcs.UUCP> Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 30 in article <371@sbcs.UUCP>, root@sbcs.UUCP (Root) says: > What Perry says with respect to board interoperability is, of course, > correct; however let's place the blame where it belongs - on Commodore. Face > it, the Zorro standard is not a standard in the way the VME Bus, MultiBus II, > NuBus, etc are spec'ed. As far as bus specs go, the Zorro "standard" is more > of a edge connector pinout and a bracket mechanical than a formal "here is > what ya gotta do to be 99.99% sure the widget will work". (Yup, I've > designed Amiga boards). Whaddaya want! You've got ONE document to follow, the Expansion Specification booklet. It gives you power, loading, and timing data. Much of the timing data does come from the 8MHz 68000 spec, but its still there and it is saying, DO THIS OR ELSE. I've heard lots of stories about boards that don't work, and I've yet to see one that's not in the OR ELSE category. A standard expansion box from CBM (or the built-in slots of an A2000) would help force manufacturers into closer accord with the specs, and it does give them a bit more slop factor (2 "F" series loads per most pins, versus 1). I agree that this book could have been written better, as time permits I'm sure it'll change more of a "here's everything you need, all in one place" sort of book. But this is a well defined bus, not just "build it to plug in here and hope for the best". -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Haynie Commodore Technology // /| ___ __ __ __ {ihnp4|caip|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh |\ // /_| | / \ / \ / \ Commodore rarely admits to knowing me, \\// / | +--+ | | | | | | much less sharing my personal opinions. \/ / | |___ \__/ \__/ \__/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~