Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!brl-adm!seismo!mcnc!ecsvax!urjlew From: urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: AMIGA 2000 and IBM compatability Message-ID: <2845@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Apr-87 01:01:38 EST Article-I.D.: ecsvax.2845 Posted: Wed Apr 1 01:01:38 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Apr-87 04:24:28 EST Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service Lines: 53 O.K. folks. This thursday IBM is going to announce its new PCs. According to all the rumours they will use a new proprietary buss, and none of the existing expansion boards will work in this new machine. Also at the same time or shortly later, IBM will be announcing a new operating system to go with these new machines. Of course the BIOS of the new machines will also be different. So where does this leave the AMIGA 2000, (and the new MAC ?) which have been making so much of their their IBM PC capabilities? I realize that there is still the world of several million existing (old style) IBM PCs, their clones, the clone makers, and the add on manufacturers. But the fact remains that as far as capturing a piece of the IBM market, COMMODORE and all the rest are about to be finessed. The AMIGA 2000 was/is supposed to feed of the availability of cheap IBM PC expansion hardware. But with the new standards being set by the new machines, how much longer will the old expansion addons continue to be available? Going of on a tangent from the previous paragraphs, I do not really understand what if any are the constraints on what kind of IBM PC expansion boards will work with the AMIGA 2000. Can anybody from Commodore please post such a list or description. Does an IBM PC or AT type cpu card have to be installed, in order for other IBM PC or AT expansion cards to be useable? Which of the following IBM PC expansion cards and card types will/will not work on the AMIGA 2000: 1) Multifunction cards e.g. AST Six Pack 2) 327x emulation cards e.g. DCA Irma 3) IBM EGA graphics card 4) IBM PGA graphics card 5) IBM PCnetwork adapter 6) IBM Token ring adapter 7) 3M Ethernet card 8) Above board or other memory expansions 9) 3086 accelerator cards 10) scsi cards By work, I mean that their facilities will be available to the AMIGADOS user in some reasonable fashion. That is if PCDOS is running is an (intuition?) window, it will be able to use say the IRma card and the E78 program to emulate a 3278 terminal. Or use the PCnetwork to access files from a network server. Notice that I am not asking for these services to be available to an AMIGA program, although of course if thats possible, I'd like to know about it. P.S. I have an Amiga, but I am not a true believer, ready to defend it, "because it's my computer right or wrong". However I am not an Ed Chaban, out to villify the AMIGA, or to insult you (or myself) by criticising it. I only want to evaluate the situation accurately without bias.