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From: ewhac@well.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: AMIGA 2000 and IBM compatability
Message-ID: <2866@well.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 4-Apr-87 00:43:10 EST
Article-I.D.: well.2866
Posted: Sat Apr  4 00:43:10 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 5-Apr-87 09:46:23 EST
References: <2845@ecsvax.UUCP> <3018@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>
Reply-To: ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab)
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In article <3018@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> spencer@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Randy Spencer) writes:
>In article <2845@ecsvax.UUCP> urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes:
>>
>>O.K. folks. This thursday IBM is going to announce its new PCs.
>   [Asks Commodore what kind of card he can use with the A2000]
>
>I don't need to use ANY PC stuff.  I want a hard disk, I want memory.
>Ok, that I can get.  Now I want to get files off the hard disk from my
>other Amiga (what? not everybody has two Amigas?).  I look at all the
>cards for the PC that I could put in a 2000 and realize that I could
>only put a hard disk in (and that would be moved to connect to Perry's
>card when it comes out.  I can't get a LAN for my Amiga (who's writing
>the networking software?  Let's use AppleTalk on the serial port!)

	Um, yes you can.  AmeriStar's ethernet board has been out for some
time.  But I agree; I'd love to have a cheepo network running on the Amiga.
If I knew the first thing about creating a quick-and-dirty network, I run
right off and create it, and then I'd write MazeWar for it.  The odd part is
that I probably wouldn't write anything else for the network once I got
MazeWar running.

>So
>there are four PC slots in my 2000 (and a $500 bridge board) that I
>will never use.  So instead I will not trade in my 1000.  I will save
>it and get the 2000-n-1 board.  Oh, drat there are those stupid IBM
>slots again!  Why can't I get all the slot space devoted to AMIGA
>slots?  Sounds like ASDG will have more than enough cards to fill in
>the current number.  They could just add slots under the IBM
>slots so that they don't have to make two card cages.  But I would
>rather have a 2000-n-notIBM cage!  Isn't there a large collection of
>people on this net who have been saying how stupid the IBM part of the
>2000 is?  Seems to me most current Amiga owners I talk to like buying
>up, but don't really go for the IBM part, they just want the most
>recent machine (I know I do). 
>
	Hey!  Someone who wants what I want.  Someone who doesn't care one
whit about Eye Bee Emm {in}compatability.  Someone who simply wants the best
there is.

	I mean, come on.  Do you really think an IBM memory card can be used
by the Amiga?  The silly things are designed for a segmented architecture,
and the ones that have more than 640K all have to do bank switching (or some
version of).  Bank switching?  On a flat address space?  We don't need no
steenking bank swtiching!  We don't need no steenking 4.75MHz 8088 clogging
up one of our valuable slots.

	What we need is a 25 MHz 68020 with a 25MHz 68881 running out of
25MHz RAM.  A 25MHz blitter would be nice, too.  BTW, have you considered
that it *JUST MIGHT* be possible to remove the existing custom chip set and
put the new super-dooper chips on an external card if and when they become
available?

	Excuse me; I'm flaming.  I have to go nurse my leg....

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