Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!INGRES.BERKELEY.EDU!hatcher From: hatcher@INGRES.BERKELEY.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Jtime.arc Posting [1 of 2] Message-ID: <8704052149.AA15242@ingres.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 5-Apr-87 16:49:05 EST Article-I.D.: ingres.8704052149.AA15242 Posted: Sun Apr 5 16:49:05 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 6-Apr-87 01:35:55 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 28 In article <3047@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer) writes: [ ...much discussion of sending arc versus shar'ed uuencoded files... ] I agree with most of Mike's points, but one thing is being overlooked (although Mike probably agrees): "arc" is not standard nor even very widely available on Unix systems, from the point of view of what percentage of them currently have it, while "shar" and "uuencode" are standard enough to be on lots of systems. Yes, I know this is not universally true, but as an easy example, none of the 4 Unix systems I use regularly have "arc", but they all have shar/uuencode (naturally I'll put/port arc to them as soon as I have some free time, but meanwhile...) This issue is regularly raised in various groups, and the usual concensus is to use standard utilities. There's never total agreement, so the argument always starts up again at some point (as it has here). >.... As a concrete example, nobody has dropped of the >net because netnews eats to much space. Several backbones have dropped >signifcant portions of the news because of rising phone bills. This is downright silly...if a site drops news, how likely are you to hear about it? I personally know of a site that *did* drop off the net some years ago precisely because "netnews eats too much space". They recently reconnected via uucp and are receiving 4 news groups rather reluctantly (a management versus employees battle). They flatly refuse to accept comp.sys.amiga due to volume. My general impression is that this is more common than one might think. Don't make baseless assumptions. Doug