Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!uwvax!puff!beilke From: beilke@puff.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Reactions to IBM PC2 graphics Message-ID: <621@puff.WISC.EDU> Date: Wed, 8-Apr-87 13:17:45 EST Article-I.D.: puff.621 Posted: Wed Apr 8 13:17:45 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 09:12:54 EST References: <10726@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <1582@husc6.UUCP> <713@dragon.tc.fluke.COM> Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 46 Keywords: VGA Killer graphics In article <713@dragon.tc.fluke.COM>, kurt@tc.fluke.COM (Kurt Guntheroth) writes: > Wait a minute. The VGA is supposed to do 256 colors at once. Is that > perhaps done in sort of the same way the Amiga does 4096 colors at once? If No. The Amiga uses Hold-And-Modify, where you can can the palette on the raster line, giving you all colors possible on screen at on time, with only 6 bit planes. The IBM on the other hand does not have this capability, and therefore have to use the same approach as the Mac II. (i.e., 1 bit plane for 2 colors, 2 bps=4 colors, ..., 8 bps=256 colors. > all 256 colors may be assigned to any pixel, in any order, and in a way that > allows access to the screen in an ordinary way, then they have something. > But think about it, 256 colors. They obviously aren't doing 256 bit planes. Look above. > Nobody can do that; you would need gigabits/second of bus bandwidth. Maybe > one byte per pixel? A 640x480 window in this mode would use 370Kbytes. I Now you're talking. 2^8=256 colors in 320 by 480, and 2^4=16 colors in 640 by 480. A 'set' amount of display memory means that for twice the resolution, with same number of bits available, you have to split the 8 bits up, to 4 for each new pixel. And go back to only 16 colors. > also don't see how a gate array of 12,000 gates complexity could compete > with a full-custom video chip. (What is the complexity of the Amiga video > chip? Anyone know?) Does the PCII have a blitter? Copper? Is the VGA > even organized in a way that makes these things possible? 1) Can't say right off hand. 2) No. 3) No. 4) I doubt it very much. > > By the way, the Amiga 2000 is still CHEAPER than the PCII/30, their bottom- > of-the-line product. Phthththhpt! It is also faster in every performance > parameter. Well, hope this helped... - - - ---> Matt Beilke <--- - - - ============================================================================== | | | // ARPA: beilke@puff.wisc.edu | | // CSNET: beilke%puff.wisc.edu@csnet-relay | | \\ // AMIGA UUCP: ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,seismo,topaz,etc.}!uwvax!puff!beilke | | \// RULES!! SNAIL: 451 Witte B, Madison, WI, 53706, USA | | | ==============================================================================