Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!brl-adm!seismo!rochester!cornell!batcomputer!halp From: halp@batcomputer.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Apple IIe vs Apple II+ Message-ID: <569@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 30-Mar-87 20:29:11 EST Article-I.D.: batcompu.569 Posted: Mon Mar 30 20:29:11 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Apr-87 06:06:56 EST References: <2723@sunybcs.UUCP> Reply-To: halp@batcomputer.UUCP (Bruce P. Halpern) Distribution: na Organization: Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY Lines: 29 Keywords: Speed Summary:Mac II =15.7 megHz; Apple= Apple Computer, Inc. Sender:halp@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu Followup-To:<2723@sunybcs.UUCP> ugbinns@sunybcs.UUCP(Leonard Binns) In article <2723@sunybcs.UUCP> ugbinns@sunybcs.UUCP (Leonard Binns) writes: >Article 717 of comp.sys.apple: >But it's not only a question of *memory*, what about *speed* ?? >I can't speak for the Mac (I'm not too familiar with it), but an IBM AT >or even an IBM XT can run circles around the apple IIc, IIe & II+. >With an IBM you're dealing with a much faster clock speed, and a >true 16-bit processor. > I wouldn't (and therefore attempted to not) suggest that a public school business class stay with Apple ][s, even ][gs. My suggestion was a Mac. The Mac II runs at 15.7 megaHertz, if speed is the question (or the answer). With Apple Educational Discounts, even a Mac II (32 bits, no less) would be competitive with an IBM, but I would think overkill for the school business class. However, a few years ago, IBM believed no one could possibly want more than 640K. Thus, my idea of too powerful my really be too blind. The Mac SE runs at 7.8 MHz, can have up to 4 MB RAM (comes with 1 MB), has one expansion slot (looks basically like a Mac on the outside), and would probably be <2K$ each (not bought in quantity) for an educational institution, with two 800K drives and a fancy keyboard. > >Anybody know how the IIgs compares in speed (sorry if it's an old topic) ? A hardware review by Garry B. Little in the November 1986 A+ states that the][gs has a 65816 with a 2.5 MHz clock. I assume this must be slower than it **really** could run, since a ][e with a AE Transwarp card (and therefore 65C02) runs at 3.5 MHz.> > Bruce P. Halpern halp@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu