Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL From: SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: (none) Message-ID: <8704060058.aa01863@SPARK.BRL.ARPA> Date: Mon, 6-Apr-87 01:00:00 EST Article-I.D.: SPARK.8704060058.aa01863 Posted: Mon Apr 6 01:00:00 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 6-Apr-87 23:43:40 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 73 For whoever that was that asked about a 1200 baud modem at a reasonable price, these ads have been around since last Fall. The main problem with the really good prices is that these places almost always are stocked out (although they'll tell you otherwise so they can get your credit card number). They do deliver, but it may take a month (and DON'T pay the credit card company until you have received the goodies - you CAN do that without being stuck with a finance charge IF you write a letter to the credit card company). THE WHOLESALE OUTLET 1 Interstate Avenue DEPT C.S. Albany ,NY 12205 Telco 1-800-344-4387 Advertise the AVATEX 1200 at 87.00 + shipping -- John Grzesiak on the Wiliboard (203) 456-1933 Sub ->Re: Avatex 1200 From ->CHRIS MURPHY (#91) on the Bit Bucket (203) 569-8739 Date ->10/13/86 09:09:32 PM California Digital 17700 Figueroa Street Carson, CA 98248 (800) 421-5041 advertised the Avatex 1200 for $99 plus shipping. This ad was in the September BYTE, and may have been missed by people who don't read this magazine. If you haven't the patience to deal with these people; Weltec is now selling a Hayes clone with a LIST price of $135 (with indicator lights) or $125 (without lights - ask about a speaker; I don't have data on that). Weltec Digital 17875 Sky Park North Suite P Irvine, CA 92714 (714) 250-1959 * May issue of A+, p. 121. In response to another question: you can use any old Apple Disk II or one of the zillions of clones as a second floppy with the //c (even with the older motherboards). What you need is an adaptor cable (which is also available for $20 or so from about a 1,000 sources); try the A.P.P.L.E. Coop; if you're not a member (shame on you), check the magazines (what's that outfit that sells the PadApple? California Scientific or something like that? Another likely source). Aside from the fact that a second floppy drive AND the cable only add up to about $120 (versus $300+ for a 3.5 inch), a second drive is the only way to go for copying 5.25 inch disks (I know you can dump the whole thing into a Z-RAM, but what if it's copy protected?). For Barry Gabler and others - you can expand the memory of your unenhanced //e without bothering with the upgrade kit which will introduce unwanted mousetext characters into some of your older software. I recommend an extended 80 column card if you don't have one as there is more and more software that will make use of it, or even requires it. You also can buy a 65C02 processor cheap (about $12) without the rest of the upgrade kit (SuperCalc3a will work fine if you do only that). I have a RAMFactor with a megabyte. I really recommend the backup power supply (even if it is gawdawful expensive - list price $179) as it takes more time than you would believe to load it up from floppy everytime the Apple is turned on). I keep about 3/4 Mbyte of software on my RAMFactor, and it's really marvelous how quickly it'll switch from one program to another. The RAMFactor won't boot directly from CTRL-APPLE-RESET without the enhancement, but it'll boot fine with PR#7. I rather like the RAMFactor. It allows up to 9 partitions, one of which can be Appleworks desktop (how much would you like?), and another can be 400K DOS 3.3 RAM disks.