Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!drutx!tlz From: tlz@drutx.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Well, GEMBOOT _almost_ works.... Message-ID: <3478@drutx.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Apr-87 14:54:51 EST Article-I.D.: drutx.3478 Posted: Tue Apr 7 14:54:51 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 10-Apr-87 05:59:20 EST Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 52 Keywords: How to reformat your boot sector, too good to be true I knew it was too good to be true, but I'm ALWAYS overly optomistic... I put GEMBOOT on my 20 Meg Supra system last week, turned on the power, got a "logging in drive c:" message and sat back while it ate my disk. Ten minutes later (I was catatonic and couldn't reach the reset button), it finished. I looked... there were 9857 files containing 123231206769813 bytes...files like 174Y$&*%$(*%Q(@ and ()*)(&$(#*^ and such ...geeez, I've seen this before! Oh, well, I said, I'll just get the old backup disks and start over. Tried it again and everything seemed fine..until last Sunday. Here's the scenerio. I turn on the system and everything boots fine. All 62 folders are "logged in". Copy a few files from A: to C:\TEMP\. Go have a little bite to eat and watch the tube, so off goes the system. A little later, I turn on the system and it starts "logging in drive c:" for a LONG, AGONIZING time. This time I was not dazed, just extremely upset, so I hit reset. The files in C: suffered the same sort of damage as before. In addition, the boot sector was damaged. After spending 4-5 hours rebuilding things and trying to re-establish the Supra v2.61 autoboot function, I gave up and called Supra. "Yes", they said. "GEMBOOT is bad. Trashes your disk. Don't use it. Actually DECREASES your available folders to 20." "And here's how to reformat your boot sector. Start formatting the hard drive, wait a few seconds after is says 'please wait, etc' and turn the computer off. Boot from the floppy (which, hopefully, contains all the hard disk utilities) and reformat the hard disk again. This is the ONLY way to reformat a bad boot sector." Apparently, supfmt.prg reads the boot sector, zeros it, formats the disk and finally writes the data back onto the boot sector. When you kill it in the middle, the sector is left zeroed, forcing it to reformat when the disk is reformatted. Isn't this exciting? I don't know why this is happening. Probably some bizzare, intertwined series of dependencies like certain accessories and/or AUTO\*.prg files. Maybe a subtle bug in GEMBOOT. Maybe both or none. I don't care. I just wanna use my computer. *** FLAME ON *** THIS is why Atari doesn't distribute things to the public that they aren't 100% convinced works correctly. Its bad enough as it is that some of us with access to USENET get burned, let alone the rest of the ST world. For my part, I've done my civic duty. I took a chance. I lost. If any more "fixes" come around, I'll put them in after a few hundred others and a few months go by. *** FLAME OFF *** I want new ROMs. OK, Neil? Terry Zrust @ AT&T Informations Systems Laboratories Denver, CO.