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From: john@viper.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari Standard Languages -- Rs232 Handling?
Message-ID: <787@viper.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 7-Apr-87 15:02:24 EST
Article-I.D.: viper.787
Posted: Tue Apr  7 15:02:24 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 00:38:06 EST
References: <8830@decwrl.DEC.COM> <101UD040164@NDSUVM1>
Reply-To: john@viper.UUCP (John Stanley)
Organization: DynaSoft Systems
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In article <101UD040164@NDSUVM1> UD040164@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes:
 >Hello;
 >     
 >  On a usual boring North Dakota evening (although we won the NCAA Hockey
 >  Championship tonight!), I was thinking about some of the things that I
 >  had planned long ago.  One of them was starting an ST BBS.  Purusing the
 >  latest literature (and my memory), I came up with ZIP in the way of P-D
 >  BBS ware, so I resigned myself to writing my own.

  Hmm, guess you haven't heard of Citadel...

  Citadel is a PD BBS system written in C which has been ported to a large
number of micros including the IBM-PC, C-64/128, Apple //, Amiga, -And- to
the Atari ST...  It is (in my opinion) -The- best general-discussion-BBS
system available PD or otherwise.  It is not as powerful or as flexable as
FIDO as far as a file-server BBS goes, but it does have Xmodem (CHK + CRC)
and will soon have Ymodem support.

  If you're interested, there is a thriving Citadel community of 15-20
systems in the Minneapolis/St.Paul area.  The system run by the person
who ported Citadel to the ST is called "Pell" at (612)-377-9239.  The
BBS system itself is available there.

  I would -strongly- advise that you take the time to use the system two
or three times before you download it.  It's a very powerful, very friendly
system, but it is -very- different in feel from 90%+ of all the bbs systems
you've probably used before.

  Digression-Warning:  If you are familiar with the RPN style calculators 
put out by HP, there is a similarity the differences between algebraic 
.vs. RPN and most-bbs's .vs. Citadel...  No, it' not an "RPN BBS" by any 
stretch of the imagination, but it's "different" in a way that encourages 
you to break some of the assumptions about how BBS's "should" work...  
When I first used an RPN calculator, I had a similar experience with having 
to rethink what calculators are and how they work...  Nowdays, I'm hooked 
on RPN calculators as my calculator-of-choice and Citadel is my BBS of choice.

  Hope you like it.  If you have further questions, feel free to ask away.
(If I get a great deal of interest, I'll consider sending a copy of the
system to Turner for posting to the net...)

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John Stanley (john@viper.UUCP)
Software Consultant - DynaSoft Systems
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