Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!rochester!ur-tut!ur-valhalla!micropen!dave From: dave@micropen.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Seagate 4051 woes Message-ID: <168@micropen> Date: Tue, 31-Mar-87 17:52:01 EST Article-I.D.: micropen.168 Posted: Tue Mar 31 17:52:01 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 2-Apr-87 02:11:44 EST Organization: Micropen Direct Writing Systems, Pittsford, NY Lines: 30 Keywords: head crash ARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!! I have two systems with Seagate 4051 hard drives. Both drives have increased noise from within the drive that is not unlike bearing noise. I took one machine down and took it to my local clone-home. They took the drive out, cleared the circuit boards, and removed a fair amount of gunk from the brake. No more noise. Problem solved, no?! No. The drive hangs in boot. A scan of the surface (using Ontracks Disk Manager) shows no less than *65* bad sectors, one of which being my boot track. Basically, a lot of head's 2 and 3 cylinders are shot. I remember vaguely people discussing noisy drives and the infamous Seagate brake. Could someone refresh me? Also, the disk manager reports some different bad sectors on subsequent runs. I cannot believe that hard disk errors should give different results on different trials. (Non-deterministic computing bothers me--especially when a hard error is defined by its being deterministic: failure 100% of the time.) My technoids say do a low-level format. I cannot see how that will help since PC disks need good boot tracks to work and my boot is already compromised. My jist is that they must have damaged the circuit boards on the disk and that the media is fine. (No physical mistreatment was done and 4051s have autopark.) Anyone care to confirm, deny, embelish this story of woe? -- David F. Carlson, Micropen, Inc. ...!{seismo}!rochester!ur-valhalla!micropen!dave "The faster I go, the behinder I get." --Lewis Carroll