Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!umnd-cs!jwabik From: jwabik@umnd-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: IBM's new System 2 Personal Computers (Really Personal System/2) Message-ID: <515@umnd-cs.D.UMN.EDU> Date: Mon, 6-Apr-87 19:32:05 EST Article-I.D.: umnd-cs.515 Posted: Mon Apr 6 19:32:05 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Apr-87 00:50:47 EST Distribution: na Organization: U. of Minnesota-Duluth, Computer Science Lines: 65 Summary: Editorial Rebuttal > In article <775@oliveb.UUCP>, tslu@oliveb.UUCP (Shang Lu) writes: > The following is a summary of two articles from local San Jose > Mercury News, concerning the newly announced IBM Personal System 2 > Personal Computers: They're called "IBM Personal System/2". > * The Model 30 is a JOKE !! This really doesn't have much meaning without some sort of explanation. The model 30 is approximately 2.5x an XT (as far as performance), for about $1200 less. (5160-089(PC/XT) = $2,895; 8530-002(Mod 30) = $1,695) The model 30 is IBM's effort to remain completely compatible with previous IBM PCs, which most would consider to be smart rather than a "joke". > * Apple has a minimum of a one-year lead, IBM has a long way to > get where the MAC is now. Big deal. The question is: Where IS the Mac now? "SE = Slightly Enhanced". This, as usual, is like comparing apples [no pun] to oranges. Both the Personal Systems/2 (hereafter PS/2) and Macs are designed for completely different things -- This statement implies that IBM is trying to catch up with Apple, which most likely is not the case. I'd like to see the ratio of installed IBM PCs to Apple Macs! > * IBM's announcements were incomplete, IBM is probably the only > company that could do what they've done. (The software will > not be ready for months.) > It is like General Motors changing all their cars and then > having no gas to put into them. DOS 3.3 was announced on April 2 along with the PS/2's.. OS/2 is coming at the end of the year. OS/2v2 in 1Q88. I guess it would have been nice to have OS/2 right away, but the fact that DOS 3.3 will run under OS/2 is VERY significant -- at least you wont need to completely rechange your thinking (unless you want to 8^) when the new OS' come out. There is "gas" to put in your "car", its just that the higher octane stuff is still being refined. > * This year, the sales of Apple's MAC may benefit from the > relatively high price of the Model 30, some analysts say. Again. The model 30 is $1695, with 640K, two 720K 3.5" drives, built in serial/parallel and graphics adapters. What does a similarly equipped MAC (any configuration) cost? How does the performace compare? > * They (IBM) really don't seem to have any entry-level machine. > From a strategic business sense, they (IBM) seem to to be > focus on revenues and profits rather than units and market > share. The reason IBM doesn't have an "entry level system" is because business users have been complaining about "not enough power" with their PCs and PC/XT's for YEARS AND YEARS now.. The fact is (for quite some time, now.. ) that 640K and at least two disk drives (actually, 20MB fixed disks have been in GREAT demand) IS the MINIMUM STANDARD configuration. Don't you think IBM LEARNED about ENTRY LEVEL PC's with the PCjr?! Don't forget that the B (in IBM) means "Business". Just a few idle ramblings in defense if Big Blue.... -Jeff