Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!princeton!allegra!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!nvuxj!nvuxg!nvuxh!nvuxk!jag2 From: jag2@nvuxk.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: IBM, this is 4 u Message-ID: <174@nvuxk.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-Apr-87 11:31:14 EST Article-I.D.: nvuxk.174 Posted: Wed Apr 8 11:31:14 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 11:06:44 EST References: <1741@isis.UUCP> <1180@lcuxlm.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Navesink, NJ Lines: 34 Summary: freedom of expression In article <1180@lcuxlm.UUCP>, car@lcuxlm.UUCP writes: > > Since when did this news group become comp.sys.ibm.pc.flame? > > I had the distinct impression that this group was meant for > the discussion of the pc and clones. This means hardware > options, software options, and rumors of the future. There > are millions of PC users, many of whom do not consider themselves > suckers. If you are not going to contribute constructively, > keep your comments in another group. > > Christopher Rath Gosh Chris, are you flaming about someone flaming? You might argue about the constructiveness of the article in question but there is no reason in the world why it shouldn't be posted here nor is there any better place to post the comments. My own views tend to lean towards agreement with most of Mr. Ragheb's remarks. IBM has left it's costomers high and dry on several occassions and probably will again. For those who bought the screaming PC's, the "advanced technology" PC-AT, PC-RT or the astounding XT286 should feel slighted at best, ripped off at worst. The clones generally have been a superior product at far better prices. I believe that IBM will continue to produce mediocre to poor products at high to outrageous prices. And you can tune in here to hear the complaints. Joe Gardina ...ihnp4!wbux2!jag or ...ihnp4!nvuxk!jag2 -- Joe Gardina @ Bell Communications Research (Red Bank, NJ) UUCP: (ihnp4,bellcore,allegra)!nvuxj!jag2 or preferably (ihnp4,bellcore,allegra)!wbux2!jag