Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!amdahl!bnrmtv!connery From: connery@bnrmtv.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: IBM's new System 2 Personal Computers Message-ID: <1607@bnrmtv.UUCP> Date: Thu, 9-Apr-87 22:31:53 EST Article-I.D.: bnrmtv.1607 Posted: Thu Apr 9 22:31:53 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 14:41:58 EST References: <775@oliveb.UUCP> <1579@bnrmtv.UUCP> <1339@uwmacc.UUCP> <5972@dartvax.UUCP> Organization: Bell Northern Research, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 29 > Also, I'm surprised that we haven't had any comments from people > that have used the new machines. I used a 50 last week, and I > want one for my desk... I had the same reaction actually, though I was thinking more for home use. Three slots would be a little limiting for some of the things we do here. The only real problem (and I think its a major one for me, though perhaps only temporary) is that the model 50 hard disk is terribly slow. The average access time is 80ms, essentially an XT class drive. If you're used to AT class performance this just won't make it. Now I realize that disk cache's are part of the new package, but then I'm already using a huge one on my machine at work and it won't perform miracles. At first I thought that there was a Model 50 without the hard disk. Made sense to me as a fast network station, but obviously IBM is trying to close out a lot of the dealer practices that cost it money. The reason for the slow hard disk is obvious--its got to fit in the half-height 3.5" form factor. I suspect that the disks IBM bought in this size (presumably up to a year ago) had to be this slow. Anyway, I am still hopeful that within a year or so, this will change. p.s. I notice that the MCGA adaptor is only CGA compatible at the BIOS level. Presumably this will break a lot of games and such on the model 30. Does anybody know any more about this? Is this true of the VGA as well? -- Glenn Connery, Bell Northern Research, Mountain View, CA {hplabs,amdahl,3comvax}!bnrmtv!connery