Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ptsfa!ihnp4!chinet!steinmetz!davidsen From: davidsen@steinmetz.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.intel Subject: Re: Recent Motorola ad seen in Byte Message-ID: <1374@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-Apr-87 08:27:42 EST Article-I.D.: steinmet.1374 Posted: Thu Apr 2 08:27:42 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Apr-87 02:23:14 EST References: <362@sbcs.UUCP> <1466@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> <580@plx.UUCP> Reply-To: davidsen@kbsvax.steinmetz.UUCP (William E. Davidsen Jr) Distribution: comp Organization: General Electric CRD, Schenectady, NY Lines: 31 Xref: utgpu comp.sys.m68k:294 comp.sys.intel:126 In article <580@plx.UUCP> ed@plx.UUCP (Ed Chaban) writes: .... >> > Me too, I'm told that if you want to take advantage of the 386 performance, > you have to use some DISGUSTINGLY EXPENSIVE RAM. I have the PC Designs GV386 (16Mhz at 0ws). It uses a very small chunk of static RAM (35ns) as cache, and the rest is relatively checp memory. I put a 2-1/2 MB ramcard in using 120ns chips, $110 for the board, $202.50 for the memory. That's $125/MB, rather reasonable. Running on the 16 bit bus drops the speed by about 20%, when 1Mbit chips drop a bit I'll put more on the motherboard. Still it runs about 3x a VAX, which is acceptable for a PC. The bottom line is that the base price with hard disk and display is ~$4k. You just can't get a 68020 box for that price (the new Apple looks more like $7k for the same size box, and that's a slow 68020. Intel is starting to ship the cache controller, so the price of cache will come down by 4th quarter (I assume). > > The other thing to remember is that the Motorola parts are SHIPPING at > 25Mhz. A 25Mhz '020 blows the doors off a 16.? Mhz '386. So does a Cray2... compare on equal price or clock speed, please. The actual performance is in a ratio of about 25:16 for Sun 3/260 and GV386. -- bill davidsen sixhub \ ihnp4!seismo!rochester!steinmetz -> crdos1!davidsen chinet / ARPA: davidsen%crdos1.uucp@ge-crd.ARPA (or davidsen@ge-crd.ARPA)