Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!brl-adm!seismo!lll-lcc!pyramid!prls!mips!mash
From: mash@mips.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: Recent Motorola ad seen in Byte
Message-ID: <231@winchester.mips.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 26-Mar-87 22:59:40 EST
Article-I.D.: winchest.231
Posted: Thu Mar 26 22:59:40 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 28-Mar-87 08:14:06 EST
References: <362@sbcs.UUCP>
Reply-To: mash@winchester.UUCP (John Mashey)
Distribution: comp
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, CA
Lines: 35

In article <362@sbcs.UUCP> root@sbcs.UUCP (Root) writes:
>(Enable Flame)
>
>What did you, fellow Usenetters, think of the recent Motorola advertisement
>(April '87 Byte) about 68020 -vs- 80386?  Used to be that Intel dispensed
>copious amounts of smoke when comparing their processors vs those from
>Motorola.  It seems now that Intel has a somewhat serious machine, the shoe 
>is on the other foot and Motorola seems to be running the smear campaign.

This ad appeared in several places last Fall; I saw it in Computer System
News.  It's very clever and well-done ad, especially with the Intel "apples"
that look like oranges when cut open.  On the other hand, in the same
issue, Motorola was telling us how the 25MHz 68020 was "5MIPS sustained,
12.5Mips (burst mode)".  In the Byte ad, we see "Choosing the world's
highest-performance 32-bit microprocessor...The MC68020 is still the
highest-performance microprocessor..."  They cited Whetstones & Dhrystones.
Draw your own conclusions from the following [a slice of a Performance Brief
I'm posting over in net.arch in net few days]:

System			Whetstone	Dhrystone	Linpack
			DP Megawhets			FORT DP MegaFlops

Sun3/260, 68881		1.24		 6,362		.11
(25MHz 68020, 20MHz 68881)
Intergraph IP32C	1.74		 8,309		.29
(30MHz Clipper)
MIPS M/500 		4.45		10,300		.58
(8MHz R2000+R2010 FPU)
VAX 8650, VMS:		4.00		10,787		.70	for context
MIPS M/800, 12.5MHz	6.90		15,300		.80
(12.5MHz R2000+R2010)
-- 
-john mashey	DISCLAIMER: <generic disclaimer, I speak for me only, etc>
UUCP: 	{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!mash, DDD:  	408-720-1700, x253
USPS: 	MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086