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Subject: Re: Red Ryder Host Materials on GEnie?
Message-ID: <297@bridge2.bridge>
Date: Mon, 30-Mar-87 17:06:04 EST
Article-I.D.: bridge2.297
Posted: Mon Mar 30 17:06:04 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 4-Apr-87 18:49:53 EST
References: <1172@spice.cs.cmu.edu> <1987Mar27.105056.21447@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu>
Organization: Bridge Communication, Mt. View, California
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Keywords: Red Ryder Host Shareware Fedit
Summary: What Happen to Red Ryder Host..

In article <1987Mar27.105056.21447@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu>, wbell@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Warren Bell) writes:
> Is is Shareware, or is it commercial-only?
> (shades of FEdit+ creeping in here -- perhaps Shareware really *is* dooomed...)
> [btw, I registered for RR last summer, expecting to receive RR Host with it,
> but didn't. I couldn't download it from GEnie because GEnie doesn't
> have access from Canada (and still doesn't).  now I have to pay $60? 
> forget it. ]
	       Warren Bell

Red Ryder Host was converted from the *FREE* realm to a $60 product so that
Host could continue to improve. Host when first released had several bugs that
prevented it from working as well as it could. Well after a considerable wait
Host is now at version 1.4 and working quite nicely. It has a couple new
commands that prior versions did not have, but is not significantly enhanced.
After a lot of thought, Freesoft decided that giving Host away as a premium
product for Red Ryder users was no longer viable. Some users thought that they
should recieve it *with* their registration, although this was never perfectly
clear, the free Genie Signup was to allow users that _wanted_ to use Host
would be able to download it from Genie as it was not cost effective to 
distribute 2-3 disks containing Red Ryder and its documentation and Red Ryder
Host with its editors and documenation. Since they are on 400K disks to make
sure of compatability with those that have not upgraded to 800k drives. 
For those that could not make use of Genie a simple letter to Freesoft
requesting Red Ryder Host would have gotton you what you wanted. 
Warren are you really going to forget using Host? Since at this time there 
Are no good alternatives for Running a BBS program on the Mac, $60 is *cheap*
for the capabilties that Host has now. Sure there is room for improvement, 
but that can be said for almost any program out there depending on what *YOU*
want or *expect* it to do. With the new Policy of Charging $60, Host has
a possibilty of getting much better. Scott has said the first major area
of improvement for Host in the future will be much more powerful message
section, threading etc...so even though it may take a while...Host will
get better. If there are Red Ryder or Host users on the net that have
specific question on the New policies, you can call Scott Watson at Freesoft
at 314-423-2190 during the Hours of 3-5pm Mon-Fri CST. It may take more than
one try to get thru, but I have successfully reached him several times this 
way.

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