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From: dgold@apple.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: new ROMs and 3rd party upgrades
Message-ID: <608@apple.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 7-Apr-87 23:59:49 EST
Article-I.D.: apple.608
Posted: Tue Apr  7 23:59:49 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 05:11:39 EST
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Reply-To: dgold@apple.UUCP (David Goldsmith)
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA
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In article <127200004@inmet> callen@inmet.UUCP writes:
>What POSSIBLE reason could CRAPple, uh, Apple have for introducing this
>sort of problem EXCEPT to force their customers to buy THEIR upgrades?!?
>THIS SUCKS! All it is going to do is generate 1) a lot of hostility
>among their customers and 2) a traffic in black market ROMs. I have every
>intention of taking my 512KE ROMs that *DO* work with the Dr. Dobbs
>upgrade and offering to copy them FOR ANY POOR SLOB WHO NEEDS THEM!
>512Kbit EPROMs have finally dropped a price where that's a reasonable
>option.
 
I'm not familiar with the particulars of this problem, but I have to say
I am surprised by the tone that you show in this posting.  As far
as I know, all of the 128K ROM changes which have been made in the last
year or so are to correct minor problems with the SCSI interface.  As
someone who works on a daily basis with the people who produce the ROMs,
I can assure you that this sort of Machiavellian idea would not cross
their minds.  Anything which lets people get the most out of their
Macintoshes, including third-party memory upgrades, is just fine with
us.  Otherwise, why would we have put SIMM sockets in the Mac Plus and
later machines, and why would we have put slots in the Mac SE and Mac II?
 
If the problem is as your dealer says (which is by no means certain), what
may have happened is that some of the code changed for SCSI purposes may
have inadvertantly broken third-party memory upgrades (we don't have
many 512 machines in house, fewer still with third-party upgrades to
test on), depending on how their address lines work and so forth.  This is
all speculation, of course.
 
I can't believe that you think we oppose third-party add-ons.  We actively
promote Radius, E-Machines, Levco, etc, etc, etc. in our co-marketing
programs.  I also can't believe you think we'd stoop to such a rotten trick.
 
Anyway, enough said.  Obviously, this message represents my own opinion
and not any official position of Apple Computer, Inc.  Harrumph.
-- 
David Goldsmith
Apple Computer, Inc.
MacApp Group

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