Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!sdcsvax!jww From: jww@sdcsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: new ROMs and 3rd party upgrades Message-ID: <2969@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> Date: Wed, 8-Apr-87 10:05:18 EST Article-I.D.: sdcsvax.2969 Posted: Wed Apr 8 10:05:18 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 07:04:55 EST References: <127200004@inmet> Organization: Western Software Technology, Vista, CA Lines: 38 In article <127200004@inmet>, callen@inmet.UUCP writes: > And now... > > >>>>> FLAME ON! <<<<< > > What POSSIBLE reason could CRAPple, uh, Apple have for introducing this > sort of problem EXCEPT to force their customers to buy THEIR upgrades?!? > THIS SUCKS! All it is going to do is generate 1) a lot of hostility > among their customers and 2) a traffic in black market ROMs. > -- Jerry "not one penny for blackmail" Callen > Do *YOU* speak for your employer? I certainly don't. I think Jerry doesn't speak for many people in this group. Apple has done many stupid things (being a big company with more employees, they get to make more mistakes than most of us) but I have yet to find one that deserves profanity. Also, when they make a really big boo-boo, they usually fix it, although due to their bigness, the progress may seem glacial at times. I know nothing about the particulars of this case, but the complaint here doesn't ring true. The article certainly indicated to me that not enough investigation had been done to make such strong charges. There are many reasons why computers don't work (anyone who knows anything about debugging knows this) and it is impossible to say a priori that one particular cause MUST be the answer. If you really think the ROM's are different, prove it. Find the instruction that causes the problem. If that's beyond your capabilities, just prove that the ROM's are different. A 4-line MS-Basic program could be used to dump the ROM to disk, and then a simple file compare would establish which bytes (if any) are different. Laziness doesn't justify libel. -- Joel West {ucbvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!jww (ihnp4!gould9!joel once I fix news) jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu if you must