Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!decvax!decwrl!sun!plaid!chuq From: chuq@plaid.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac Plus with 256K ROMs? Message-ID: <16409@sun.uucp> Date: Thu, 9-Apr-87 00:03:47 EST Article-I.D.: sun.16409 Posted: Thu Apr 9 00:03:47 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 11:23:18 EST References: <614@apple.UUCP> Sender: news@sun.uucp Reply-To: chuq@sun.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd Lines: 27 >In any case, this isn't really necessary. There is no non-hardware-related >feature of the SE ROMs which is not being made available to Plus users >via patches. If you run system 4.1 or later on your plus (or 512E) >you'll get the new TextEdit, menu manager, and font manager that the >SE and II have. This brings up an interesting question. If this is all going to be patched this implies they'll be loaded into RAM in the system heap. How much memory are these patches going to take, and is that loss of memory going to cripple 512K machines? I remember the good old days when I was using the old ROM's and RAM based HFS, and a number of programs that were well behaved in 512K didn't work terribly well in (512K - RAM HFS). A number of applications are already pushing machines towars a megabyte or more (I would not do serious work in LSC or Word 3.0 in 512K, and RSG3 could stand it too) and I expect this to get worse over time. Are we pushing the smaller machines into obsolescense that much faster? Is there any way we can convince Apple to put the non-hardware related functionality into a new ROM for owners of the 512K and Plus so we don't have to eat our Ram for the rest of eternity? This almost looks to me like a hidden inducement to obsolete the old machines... Now, where did I put that 2 megabyte upgrade, I think I'm going to need it... chuq Chuq Von Rospach chuq@sun.COM [I don't read flames] There is no statute of limitations on stupidity