Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!decvax!dartvax!stevel From: stevel@dartvax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: new ROMs and 3rd party upgrades Message-ID: <5977@dartvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 9-Apr-87 11:42:18 EST Article-I.D.: dartvax.5977 Posted: Thu Apr 9 11:42:18 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 14:56:47 EST References: <127200004@inmet> <2969@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> Reply-To: stevel@dartvax.UUCP (Steve Ligett) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 68 If you have a third party upgrade that won't work with a particular set of roms, the cause is likely to be that the upgrade doesn't have pullups on the added address lines. Some roms may be fussy about the levels. This problem can exist with the Dr. Dobbs upgrade. I don't know of it causing problems, but it might. It's simple enough to duplicate the Apple 512k circuitry exactly. On upgrades I do, don't quite duplicate Apple's circuitry. Let me try to describe: (I'll assume that you know the basics of the upgrade - where to put the 253, and about the row of pads near it, since I do it by instinct now, and don't remember the coordinates.) pin 1 - jumper to ground (pin 8). pin 2 - solder to pin 2 below it. pins 3,4 - tie to +5, pin 16. I use a bare wire so I can solder the pullups from pins 5, 6 to it. pins 5,6 - a 2.2k pullup from each to the wire mentioned above, and a wire to pads 6, 3 (!maybe!) in the nearby group. pin 7 - connect with a 47 ohm resistor to pad 2 in the group. pins 8, 9 solder to pins 8, 9 below pins 10,11,12,13 - tie to +5. pin 14 - solder to pin 14, below. pin 15 - tie to +5. I solder a bare wire across 10, 11, 12, 13, and 15 to pin 16. pin 16 - solder to pin 16 (+5) below. Don't forget to cut the jumper from pad 1 to 2 in the group. Hmmm, the diagram below is almost understandable to me. If you use it with the text above, you might be able to do an upgrade. +--------------+ | -------- | +==1 +++--*--+ | * ||| 15==+ | 3-+RR * | | 4-+|| 13==+ | +--==5--+| 12==+ | |+-==6---+ 11==+ | ||+==7 10==+ | ||| +* * | ||| |-------- | ||R +------------+ ||| ||| O ||+---* |=----* | O | O +-----* O Warning - This may have errors. Apology - I didn't mean to write this much. Disclaimer - It's not my fault if you break your Mac. I've done a couple hundred upgrades this way, and only one didn't work. But on that one, I hadn't tested the board before doing the upgrade, so maybe it didn't work as a 128k. (some day I'll have to get back to that board...) -- Steve Ligett stevel@dartmouth.edu or (astrovax cornell decvax harvard ihnp4 linus true)!dartvax!stevel