Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!brl-adm!adm!EDWIN%TAMODP.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.EDU From: EDWIN%TAMODP.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.EDU Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: RE:Cheap boxes & sanity Message-ID: <6656@brl-adm.ARPA> Date: Thu, 2-Apr-87 10:32:09 EST Article-I.D.: brl-adm.6656 Posted: Thu Apr 2 10:32:09 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Apr-87 13:37:32 EST Sender: news@brl-adm.ARPA Lines: 29 I have a couple of comments to the following: >I'm not very expert on this level of Unix, but I have a thought I have >to share: is it SANE to run Unix on 80x86 processors? The complicated >archictecture seems oriented towards a much more low-level approach to >programming than is associated with Unix. (One Xenix advocate boasted >that this Unix derviative supports *six* memory models. I'm impressed, >but I'm also appalled.) > >The only motivation for doing Unix on IBM clones seems to be the fact >that they *are* IBM clones. > >Just a thought. First, lumping 80x86 chips together in the same boat is not accurate. The 80386 is quite different than the 80286, as it has a virtual memory mode as well as the 80286's segmented memory addressing scheme. Secondly, IBM PC's running Unix offer the best price/performance I know of. A 10 Mhz AT clone with a 70 MB hard disk and Unix can be bought for about $3000. For around $5000 one can get an 80386 machine, and from tests I have seen, an 80386 running Xenix has about the same processing power as a VAX 11/780 running BSD 4.2 (the main limitation is the slower I/O on the PC). Considering the price of a VAX, an 80386 machine could be considered much more than a workstation (however, most of the code now available has not been optimized for the 80386). Edwin Garrett EDWIN@TAMODP.BITNET