Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!munnari!mulga!ausmelb!boyd From: boyd@ausmelb.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Mixing vaxen and suns on NFS Message-ID: <135@ausmelb.OZ> Date: Tue, 31-Mar-87 21:05:46 EST Article-I.D.: ausmelb.135 Posted: Tue Mar 31 21:05:46 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Apr-87 06:06:07 EST References: <5762@brl-adm.ARPA> <1333@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> Reply-To: boyd@ausmelb.UUCP (Boyd Roberts) Organization: Austec International Limited, Melbourne Lines: 41 Ok, lets look at what's been said. The people who say that it works all run in a homgeneous environment. That are either all SUNs or they are SUNs with VAX file-servers. That is a homogeneous environment. NFS works in said role. But you've got to pay a price. The price is - - a flat namespace - shiping copies of binaries to machine where they won't run - administration limiting the size of hetrogenity - the users must be educated to know where the files are A file-server environment does not ``mix''. It leans to support one dominant machine type. The NFS claim is to be able to get widely disparate machines to function together. But, it provides none of the tools needed to do this. Where are the name servers? Don't say ``yp''. Because all it does is is provide one global /etc/passwd. And, very badly at that. You can do this by simply moving /etc/passwd to globally known place. And, if you've got symbolic links you don't even need to do that (Sys V NFS doesn't support them). The point of a network file system is that a pathname is a pathname. It doesn't matter where it is physically. It should be transparant. NFS doesn't provide this sufficiently. It should also work. What is the difference between a disk controller barfing and a server crashing? If a disk controller dies you call in the engineers. If a server crashes, what do you do? You say reboot it? I say ``call in the engineers''. Things should work. Surely you wouldn't pay for anything less. I wouldn't. -- Boyd Roberts boyd@ausmelb.oz | boyd@basser.oz When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro... D