Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!DECWRL.DEC.COM!smokey From: smokey@DECWRL.DEC.COM.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: new Xtool distrib, and Xmh in particular Message-ID: <8703251734.AA05557@eros.dec.com> Date: Wed, 25-Mar-87 13:27:16 EST Article-I.D.: eros.8703251734.AA05557 Posted: Wed Mar 25 13:27:16 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Mar-87 05:15:45 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 27 Chet: As one of the designers of the Xtoolkit I feel compelled to reply. Sounds like you are having a good deal of finger trouble since there a small numbers of hundreds of folks who are using xmh as their only interface to mail. However your points are well taken. The V10 version of the Xtool kit painfully slow. Not on purpose but as a consequence of what it is. It was and still is a prototype of a toolkit to be provided with X V11. It was built to try out and prove or disprove our ideas. It has been very useful in that role. We have spent little or no time on performance tuning because the standard answer is always "X version 11" fixes that! We know that life is never that simple and will inevitably spent mucho time on performance. The V11 version is comming along. Not as quickly as we would like but it is turning over. I could argue that the current version is, infact useful, since a large number of people are using it, but that is begging the question. Your points are fundamentally correct and we would only be arguing about degree. I can only ask that you use the V10 toolkit for what it is. A prototype that will give you and others a head start in experiencing (at the functional level) what we hoping will be a solid framework for building applications and environments. Smokey...