Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!pyramid!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.comp-soc Subject: Re: Musings on Electronic Mail Message-ID: <1374@hplabsc.HP.COM> Date: Tue, 3-Mar-87 14:25:09 EST Article-I.D.: hplabsc.1374 Posted: Tue Mar 3 14:25:09 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Mar-87 00:44:20 EST References: <1350@hplabsc.HP.COM> Sender: taylor@hplabsc.HP.COM Distribution: world Lines: 38 Approved: taylor@hplabs (Note from the submitter: sorry - but this must be kept anonymous if posted since I am involved with one of the unannounced products. I don't think this reveals anything, but I know that they are quite paranoid) In your posting you say: >To compose the message, I fully expect at *least* the same ability to >send stuff that I have with a regular mesage. I have received (paper) >mail with cartoons, articles clipped out of magazines and newspapers, >photographs, and even (ahem) items of clothing. While we can argue that >transmitting physical things via an electronic medium is ridiculous, I >think the concept of being able to trivially add doodles, attach pictures >and other text and so on are *vital* to the success of the medium. There are a number of R&D efforts along these lines. I recall one at BBN which has been written up occasionally. The R&D efforts involved too much expensive equipment to be practical for anyone outside a few very rich government agencies. However, there are already postings in the mac.binaries where the full repertoire of Mac graphics tools can be sent electonically. There are also products emerging that are specifically aimed at various commercial markets to support the electronic shipping and annotation of documents. In fact, if you expand your definition of electronic mail to include the new generation of facsimile equipment this capability is already widespread. All of these are low enough cost to be commercially affordable. Personal affordability should arrive within a decade. The only real gap is in the user interface arena, where nothing is yet available that can compete with the ease of use and expressive power of pencil, pen, or crayon. Here I don't even know of any close contenders. [Note from the moderator: The system being discussed here is in fact the Diamond-II multimedia mail system from Bolt Beranek and Neuman (BBN), a part of the EXPRES project (a DoD funded project for the submission and tracking of documenents). I think it would be very interesting to have someone from BBN reply to this comment about the expense of the Diamond system (a Sun 3/75 to start) and it would also be interested to have some people from the EXPRES project discuss it here... --- Dave]