Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!TOPAZ.RUTGERS.EDU!hedrick From: hedrick@TOPAZ.RUTGERS.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: GOSIP Message-ID: <8703120441.AA28976@topaz.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 11-Mar-87 23:41:27 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.8703120441.AA28976 Posted: Wed Mar 11 23:41:27 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Mar-87 04:44:43 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 23 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Could you forward this back to Mike Corrigan: My primary concern is that we don't push OSI so fast that we ruin its long-term future. TCP/IP proceeded the way it did because there was no choice. We had to get things out quickly because we needed the facilities. After all, it was originally claimed to be a research vehicle. OSI is supposed to be different. It is supposed to be a second-generation, production system, commerically supported, and all that. I have my own scepticism about this, but the point is that it will accomplish absolutely nothing if we push people into it so fast that we just duplicate the history of TCP/IP. One thing that 4.1 and 4.2 make very clear is how hard it is to get improved software into everybody's hands once large groups of people have started to use something. How many years will it have taken to get subnets in use? (It still isn't finished.) I understand the political pressure to move ahead quickly with OSI, but I think that should be resisted. I think you should be writing specs for pilot implementations, but be suggesting that all production work be done with TCP/IP. The point is that we should give OSI a chance to get some actual use in well-controlled environments, and do lots of testing. When something is offered for general use, that something should be well-tested and the robust. The last thing we should be doing is pressuring vendors to come out with products prematurely, as GOSIP seems sure to do.