Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!FLASH.BELLCORE.COM!karn From: karn@FLASH.BELLCORE.COM.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: GOSIP vs TCP/IP Message-ID: <8703250201.AA06443@flash.bellcore.com> Date: Tue, 24-Mar-87 21:01:57 EST Article-I.D.: flash.8703250201.AA06443 Posted: Tue Mar 24 21:01:57 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 26-Mar-87 03:40:08 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 17 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa This is misleading. In "unlayered virtual circuit" networks, connection state information is kept not only in the end-point switches, but also in every intermediate switch along the path. For example, I understand that each GTE Telenet node speaks X.75 to its neighbors, making it an unlayered VC network. Because of this, a node or link failure ANYWHERE along the connection path causes an X.25 VC reset, not just failures at the end nodes. Only in "layered VC" networks such as the DDN (where datagrams are used internally) can intermediate node and link failures occur without resetting virtual circuits. Since it is my understanding that the DDN is used almost exclusively for passing Internet datagrams around, I never could understand the reason for forcing IP gateways to deal with the gratuitous complexity of X.25. I can only speculate that the reasons were political and not technical. However, I am thankful that we will be able to come up on the ARPANET with HDH instead of X.25. Phil