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Subject: Re: More Questions on Christianity
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Date: Fri, 27-Feb-87 04:52:51 EST
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It has come to my attention that there can viewed an entirely different 
story relating to the resurection. It is well known fact that Jesus,
and Judas were in fact the only educated members of their crew. The rest
were fisherman. Both Judas, and Jesus were scholars in the old
testament. Now consider this: Jesus, and Judas plotted together knowing
what events were to transpire because of theire OT knowledge, and
fabricated the coming of the "saviour". Everything was done in such a
way as to cause influence. Remember that the people they were trying to
convert, are uneducated peasants, who will fall very easily to slight of
hand tricks, and staged "Miracles". The point here is that the two of them
know that that they have to follow the prophesies. The people start to
realize after awhile "Hey, Once or twice, and I say coincidence. Three
or four, and I sya he is lucky, but my eyes are my evidence, and this
man has repeatedly fit the description has foretold by our forefathers,
therefore maybe he is the real thing" that maybe this guy is the saviour.
The word begins to spread, and Jesus is growing more popular. He and
Judas can be sure to keep fullfilling the prophesies as best they can,
but they are stuck on a major one. Unfortunately I do not know what the
exact wording of the prophesy is, but it deals with the resurection.
This was a tough one, and I believe they mis-understood it. They put 
together this plan of Judas turning in Jesus, and Jesus going through
the last supper etc. etc. and acknowledging that he would be
betrayed. So they go through with it, but I do not believe they thought
that Jesus would be persecuted, and that is where their plan failed.
When Judas realized this, it was too late, the wheel had been set in
motion and could not be stopped. Jesus would die, and that would end
their plans. He obviously would not be permitted to live out his life
with his friends, because of his betrayal, so he committed suicide.
Now comes the interesting part. Jesus is put up on the cross to die.
Let's talk about death. The term dead has changed quite a bit through
time. What was considered dead 20 years ago, is considered alive
today. Today we talk about brain dead. We also know that the body
can go into comas where the vital signs are virtually non-existant.
It is also know that today people can slow down their vital signs
through intense meditation. So here's Jesus on the cross. Is he dead?
or does he just look dead. Religious people say he was dead, others
can argue that he was not really dead, but certainly probably looked
dead. An argument here is that dead people do not bleed, and it is
written that Jesus was poked in the leg (To see nerve reaction) with a
spear, and a trikle of blood oozed out of the puncture. They concluded
he was dead, but in this case he really is not. Now put your self in 
the shoes of the guards. They think he is dead, but they know someone
is going to try to steal the body. What would you do if you saw
someone you knew was dead, was standing up, and TALKING to you, what would
you do? I might faint, this is possible, I certainly would be scared.
Jesus certainly had enough time to rest before he made his appearance.
This is all possible. If I was Jesus, I would say to myself " Well
this is not he way we planned it, but nonetheless, I can still finish
what I started, by making an appearance to my friends, and then
leave before anyone is the wiser. I am not going back up on the cross."
So he splits and heads east to lands where he will never be heard from
again. Meanwhile his appearance has certainly shocked his diciples.
They are back fishing, and then Jesus pops up. Whoa! How is this? He
really must be the son of god. I better write this down sometime.
etc. etc. etc.

Hey this is all conjecture, and can not be proved, but the point is
that all versions/stories are an interpretation of what is written.
You interpret/see what you want to see, or what others want you to
see. It is known fact that the Vatican contains editions of the bible
which contain material that was felt would not be in the public
interest to be known, so is therefore edited out. Therefore you do not
have the full story. Just remember that a mass of ignorant people with the
fear-of-god in them is easier to controll than those who are aware that
god is just a figmant of one's imagination and wishes.

				Eric Hallander
				Open minded individual who somehow
				by some miracle managed to acquire
				good values without being religiously
				brainwashed.

[Have you read "The Passover Plot"?  You might want to. --clh]