Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!topaz!christian From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: mod.religion.christian Subject: Re: Calvin on the accuracy of Scripture Message-ID: <10273@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Fri, 20-Mar-87 02:49:44 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.10273 Posted: Fri Mar 20 02:49:44 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Mar-87 09:49:27 EST References: <10191@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Sender: hedrick@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 42 Approved: christian@topaz.UUCP In article <10191@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> hedrick@topaz.UUCP writes: > It is my view that until the 19th or 20th Cent., what most people > meant by accurate was "substantially accurate". I claim that in the > last few centuries, our concept of historical accuracy has become more > literal than it used to be. I suspect that some of this is due to the > ideal of objectivity. But I also think we have been influenced the > invention of the camera and tape recorder. These establish a very > literal concept of what accuracy means. We have also been heavily influenced by the study of semantics. Reorderings, rephrasings, retellings, translations and other modifications of texts (common before text was written down, and still common during transcription) are well known possible sources of semantic change. We know that these have occurred extensively in the Bible. Context is also important to semantics. A single passage may well be intended to be interpreted differently under different contexts. Even a recording (audio or video) cannot reproduce the context of an original listener's culture. Thus to believe that the original meanings of Jesus' preaching has come to us today requires a miraculous preservation of semantics. The assumption of "substantially accurate" is merely wishful thinking without evidentiary basis. One can point to the profusion of interpretations of scripture as evidence that there is no understanding, or one can claim that they are all valid because there were multiple meanings intended. There's no proof either way: once again, believers must resort to blind faith, that most worthless justification for belief. How many places need we point out the arbitrary choice of faith as sole support, before Christians start to ask why they chose to put their faith in it? -- "Do you want real TRUTH in capital letters? Then search yourself for why you believe the things you do. Don't be afraid to analyze why your religion gives you the high it does. Answer yourself this question: Is TRUTH important enough for me to give up my religion if that is required? Until you answer yes to this you are not being honest with yourself." Dave Trissel -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0-tro