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From: ted@blia.BLI.COM (Ted Marshall)
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b
Subject: Re: serious problem - mod articles not sent to mailing site
Message-ID: <1865@blia.BLI.COM>
Date: Wed, 18-Mar-87 16:30:42 EST
Article-I.D.: blia.1865
Posted: Wed Mar 18 16:30:42 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 20-Mar-87 04:35:55 EST
References: <1626@lsuc.UUCP> <1830@blia.BLI.COM> <1644@lsuc.UUCP>
Organization: Britton Lee, Los Gatos, CA
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Summary: Take a look at this header
Xref: mnetor news.admin:266 news.software.b:397

In article <1644@lsuc.UUCP>, dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) writes:
> In article <1830@blia.BLI.COM> ted@blia.BLI.COM (Ted Marshall) writes:
> >
> >This has happened to me too, using mod.computers.vax. However, the problem
> >stopped about the time we changed our newsfeed node from bigbang to voder.
> >In both cases, the path begins at my node so I assume that some sites have
> >fixed their software to pass a message on even if the path indicates that
> >it came from there.
> 
> Nope, that can't be it, since articles should not be sent to a
> site which actually has had them once AS USENET ARTICLES. Otherwise
> they'd go around the net forever.

I agree with your logic. However, it happens! The following is a header from
an article that I mailed to INFO-VAX@SRI-KL.ARPA (moderator address for
mod.computers.vax) as it arrived back at my machine:

> From ted@blia.UUCP (Ted Marshall) Thu Mar 12 09:51:49 1987
> Path: blia!voder!pyramid!decwrl!decvax!ucbvax!blia.UUCP!ted
        ----                                    ----
> From: ted@blia.UUCP (Ted Marshall)
> Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax
> Subject: Re: Info-Vax Digest (suppressing error messages)
> Message-ID: <8703121751.AA20496@blia.BLI>
> Date: 12 Mar 87 17:51:49 GMT
> References: <8703120316.AA11929@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
> Distribution: world
> Organization: The ARPA Internet
> Lines: 26
> Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa

Note the path. Even though it originated at blia.UUCP (my site), it still
returned.

Also, as I understand the workings of USENET, the don't-send-back-to-a-node-
on-the-path rule is un-needed because of the history file, the same way that
a node with two news feeds doesn't get two copies of everything.

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