Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!mit-eddie!bu-cs!jsol From: jsol@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Jon Solomon) Newsgroups: news.stargate Subject: Re: Restrictions on Stargate Message-ID: <5626@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Date: Sun, 22-Mar-87 22:35:38 EST Article-I.D.: bu-cs.5626 Posted: Sun Mar 22 22:35:38 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Mar-87 01:48:36 EST References: <103@stargate.UUCP> <998@rpics.RPI.EDU> Reply-To: jsol@buita.UUCP (Jon Solomon) Organization: Boston Univ. CS Dept. Lines: 36 I agree with everybody out there who is complaining that Stargate must not copyright what is printed in USENET. After much communication with the Stargate team I am happy to say that they are NOT going to copyright anything that is already in the public domain (such as netnews). If they wish to add services to their system that are outside of USENET's domain, then they are bound by whatever contracts they make with those entities. Now realistically, using current technology, you are either a Stargate subscriber or you aren't. If you subscribe then you pay the fees and get the necessary equipment. All is fine. If you aren't a subscriber then you continue to receive netnews the same way you always have. If some site deicdes to start using stargate exclusive, you can't do anything about it. You certainly can't complain to the Stargate Team about it, they didn't make the decision. I think if you want to receive Stargate transmissions over your uucp channel that you consent to pay part of the cost that the site which is receiving stargate is paying. THIS IS STILL BETWEEN YOU AND THAT SITE. NOT WITH STARGATE. USENET has *ALWAYS* been a fluctuating network. News paths have been fleeting since the beginning of time. Stargate won't change that. If ihnp4 decided to stop sending news altogether you would still have to find someone else to get your news from. Again, after much conversation with the Stargate Team, I find that Stargate is a different entity from usenet. Usenet will continue (as it has since its inception) to operate as long as their is sufficient interest in keeping it running. If we at BU start receiving Stargate, we won't stop MIT from getting our USENET feed (but NOT our Stargate feed unless they pay), just like it has since we first started receiving netnews. Anyway, I think that sums up what is being argued. --jsol