Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!brl-adm!brl-sem!ron From: ron@brl-sem.UUCP Newsgroups: news.stargate Subject: What really is suitable for STARGATE transmission? Message-ID: <701@brl-sem.ARPA> Date: Mon, 30-Mar-87 21:17:44 EST Article-I.D.: brl-sem.701 Posted: Mon Mar 30 21:17:44 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Apr-87 05:25:47 EST Organization: Electronic Brain Research Lab Lines: 44 First, I'd like to say that I think people who put restricted copyright messages on their USENET messages are being rather silly. I doubt that it is really enforceable, it's sort of like putting a letter in a photo- copier and expecting that copies won't be made. In addition, STARGATE would be foolish to be redistributing anything that was likely to have these messages anyway. NOW FOR THE REAL STUFF: Frankly, I think people can settle down. STARGATE has already decided to transmit only moderated groups and other tame items. I'm not sure that the USENET MOD groups would even be a good idea. First, finding the moderated groups is a bit difficult these days now that the name is not an indication of the distribution strategy. But even when it was, many "MOD" groups were not sufficiently moderated (if at all) to meet any reasonable criteria that STARGATE could establish. For example, many of the groups are hot wired directly to Internet mailing lists that are unmoderated. Sending a note to the moderator address instantly posts it to the Internet community and back into the supposed moderated news group. Of the remaining moderated groups, STARGATE probably can not effectively redistribute a group without the cooperation of the moderator. They would need to expect the moderator to exercise the type of discretion for which they were looking when they chose to try the USENET moderated groups. Of the legitimate moderated lists, only a few are trully timely and interesting enough to make the price of a STARGATE subscription worthwhile. One idea that is very appealing, is to use STARGATE for some of the lists that many people want but few are willing to pay the current backbone charges to distribute. The various source and binary distributions for the variety of microcomputers comes to mind. However, I certainly would not wish to have the responsibility for blocking proprietary code that someone maliciously or inadvertantly queued for transmission. There has been recent messages from AT&T about postings of UNIX proprietary code, and a few years ago a couple of binaries of proprietary Mac programs were posted. I think STARGATE is going to have to look elsewhere for its program material than just snarfing up a few existing USENET groups. Of course, this is exactly what they have been saying they want to do. It can be done effectively. -Ron