Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!decvax!decwrl!sun!amdcad!amd!intelca!mipos3!cpocd2!howard From: howard@cpocd2.UUCP Newsgroups: talk.origins,sci.bio Subject: Re: question about animal hybridization Message-ID: <522@cpocd2.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Mar-87 12:21:59 EST Article-I.D.: cpocd2.522 Posted: Tue Mar 24 12:21:59 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Mar-87 00:48:07 EST References: <3353@ihlpa.ATT.COM> Reply-To: howard@cpocd2.UUCP (Howard A. Landman) Organization: Intel Corp. ASIC Services Organization, Chandler AZ Lines: 27 Xref: utgpu talk.origins:457 sci.bio:166 In article <3353@ihlpa.ATT.COM> lew@ihlpa.ATT.COM (Lew Mammel, Jr.) writes: >In a discussion about possible mechanisms of speciation, the question >of genetic compatibility as a criterion for typological classification >came up. That is, animals which when cross-bred produced viable, fertile >offspring might be classified together. > >I asserted that this criterion doesn't generate an equivalence relation, >since there might be populations A, B, and C, such that A is compatible >( by the above criterion ) with B, B is compatible with C, but A is not >compatible with C. > >My question is, is there an example of this intransitivity among known >populations of animals? ( N.B. animals, not plants! ) Yes. The classic example is frogs in the Appalachians. Northern frogs can interbreed with their nearest neighbors, who can interbreed with those a little farther south, ... and so on. But the northernmost and southernmost frogs cannot interbreed. I first heard of this in the late 60's, but I don't have a reference. Note that there may be gender-dependence as well. It is possible that A males could breed with B females, but B males can't breed with A females. (No I don't have an example.) -- Howard A. Landman ...!intelca!mipos3!cpocd2!howard