Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!mimsy!prometheus!pmk From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP Newsgroups: talk.origins,sci.bio Subject: Re: mass extinctions Message-ID: <621@prometheus.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Apr-87 00:00:26 EST Article-I.D.: promethe.621 Posted: Tue Apr 7 00:00:26 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 14:08:48 EST References: <3366@udenva.UUCP> <1415@cybvax0.UUCP> Reply-To: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc) Organization: Prometheus II, Ltd., College Park, MD 20740-0222 Lines: 33 Keywords: Adaptablity Xref: utgpu talk.origins:515 sci.bio:261 In article <1415@cybvax0.UUCP> mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) writes: >In article <3366@udenva.UUCP> agranok@udenva.UUCP (Alexander Granok) writes: >> It's the same sort of thing with coyotes and wolves today. >No it's not. Wolves have been exterminated by humans, because when their >normal food sources were swept aside to make room for domesticated animals, >they adapted by eating the domesticated animals. It has been cost effective >for humans to wipe out wolves (for assorted reasons), but not coyotes. Actually, fences discrimminated in this process of eliminating food sources from wolves. Cattle used to be grazed in SMALL fenced pastures, and now are fed in feed lots and barns. In the past, rotated pasture/cropland were all fenced. Those fences have come out, and the farmers plow the ground from ditch to ditch. The open range has allowed the wolves back in. I ran into my first wolf while hunting in Iowa! Impressive! Very long legged, huge feet, teeth as long as fingers all crowded toward the business end of a very long mouth. I took a theatening stance, and backed out of his path. Beastie took what seemed like a few leisurely loping steps and was gone into a thicket a half mile (1 kilometer) away. It stopped momentarily and looked back, and then vanished from sight. A solitary "outer limits" experience that I will never forget. It was in an area about three or four miles north of the line between Fayette and Wadena along the Volga River, in Fayette county, just in case any one has some time to kill and wants to see a zone where wilderness has returned in just a decade or two. +---------------------------------------------------------+--------+ | Paul M. Koloc, President: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | | Prometheus II, Ltd.; College Park, MD 20740-0222 | this | | {mimsy | seismo}!prometheus!pmk; pmk@prometheus.UUCP | decade | +---------------------------------------------------------+--------+