Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!husc4!gallagher From: gallagher@husc4.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Comment on punctuated equilibria Message-ID: <1634@husc6.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-Apr-87 13:13:12 EST Article-I.D.: husc6.1634 Posted: Fri Apr 10 13:13:12 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Apr-87 17:31:44 EST References: <829@akgub.UUCP> <1625@husc6.UUCP> Sender: news@husc6.UUCP Reply-To: gallagher@husc4.UUCP (paul gallagher) Organization: Harvard Univ. Science Center Lines: 41 I've found out in the past 24 hours that there are indeed evolutionary theories which assign no role or almost no role to natural selection - so I owe Mr. Strickling an apology. Specifically, Daniel Brooks and E.O. Wiley ("Evolution as an Entropic Phenomenon") and Peter Saunders and Mae-wan Ho ("The Complexity of Organisms" - both in J.W. Pollard, Evolutionary Theory: Paths into the Future) emphasize that the theory of natural selection, because it is an optimization theory, is inadequate to explain the complexity of organisms and the fact that the origin of species and the production of diversity are time-dependent and thus irreversible phenomena. Hence, they use the principles of non-equilibrium thermodynamics to model evolution and embryological development as irreversible entropic processes characterized by the increase of information complexity. In this framework, the existence of convergence - which I cited as proof that natural selection must be a force in evolution - appears "because variation is constrained by the deterministic factors in the information systems of organisms" - the same changes appear in different organisms because these changes correspond to a minimal increase in complexity... Along similar lines, Brian Goodwin ("Changing from an evolutionary to a generative paradigm in biology" in the same book as the above) argues against the historical emphasis of evolutionary biology. An adequate answer to the question, "why does this dog have a tail" is not "because its parents had a tail". He emphasizes morphogenetic fields - embryological regions which have the ability to generate forms. Rather than being completely controlled by inherited genetic elements, they are structures guided by generative principles which direct spatial and temporal organization. Each morphogenetic field has the potential of creating a great variety of forms, "because each morphogenetic field is described by equations with many solutions which define the set of morphological possibilities." Evolution, even though it involves changes in genes and the environment, thus is to be understood as a change from one solution of the morphogenetic field equations to another. In both these theories, natural selection is thus entirely peripheral to the understanding of evolution. Paul G.