Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!mit-eddie!mit-amt!simsong From: simsong@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Simson L. Garfinkel) Newsgroups: sci.math,sci.physics,sci.crypt,sci.math.stat Subject: Re: Do you use RANDOM NUMBERS? Message-ID: <836@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 18-Mar-87 10:25:38 EST Article-I.D.: mit-amt.836 Posted: Wed Mar 18 10:25:38 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Mar-87 00:37:16 EST References: <5712@reed.UUCP> Reply-To: simsong@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Simson L. Garfinkel) Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge MA Lines: 28 Keywords: Random numbers, leprechauns Xref: mnetor sci.math:745 sci.physics:927 sci.crypt:253 sci.math.stat:69 In article <5712@reed.UUCP> mdr@reed.UUCP (Mike Rutenberg) writes: >How do people currently use RANDOM NUMBERS? Simulations? Anything else? A few years ago I was doing research in PSI (no joke) and needed a truely random source of numbers. Not wanting to get involved with radioactive decay (and for other reasons wanting to use electronic circuits) I built an electronic random number generator which was then attached to a single bit of a digital input port on an IBM-PC. The random number generator consisted of a variable-duration pulse generator. When the pulse was long (past a certain point), a comparator output a "1" which was fed to the I/O port and fed back to the pulse generator to shorten the duration of the pulse. Likewise, when the output was a "0" the duration of the pulse was lengthened. Extensive FFT analysis of the output of the generator showed it to have roughly uniform frequency distriubtuion with the exception of a high energy point around 100KHZ. As the sampling rate was under 10HZ, this did not present a major problem. Incidently, I didn't discover any PSI effects. Simson L. Garfinkel -- --- Overheard in a terminal room: "What an interesting pattern that is on your shirt. May I trace it with my finger?"i