Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!jade!topaz.berkeley.edu!newton2 From: newton2@topaz.berkeley.edu.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: UUCP traffic monitoring Message-ID: <3050@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sun, 5-Apr-87 03:40:49 EST Article-I.D.: jade.3050 Posted: Sun Apr 5 03:40:49 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Apr-87 22:47:06 EST References: <870401-9823@nsavax.uucp> <2868@well.UUCP> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: newton2@topaz.berkeley.edu () Distribution: world Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 28 I strongly support the right to individual privacy and I disagree that our society wouldn't be grievously harmed if the NSA and its functions disappeared. The world is bristling with infernal devices; we need timely warning and wideranging intelligence. I have come to the position that it is practically speaking impossible to wall off legitimately private goings-on from the scrutiny of official agencies (and from unsanctioned private agents as well). The proper approach to safeguarding and extending our right to privacy (and the other civil liberties which are largely contingent upon this one) is a legal and procedural one, basically an extention of the now- threatened "exclusionary rule" that (once) absolutely exculpated a defendant against whom evidence had been adduced by unconstitutional means forbidden by the fourth and fifth amendments. We can't, and for our safety shouldn't, restrict intelligence gathering by NSA and ilk, foreign or domestic, but we can enact extremely heavy penalties for the use of information gathered "inadvertently" from domestic sources, i.e., no sumptuary laws should be enforced using such product, massive damages should be awarded against anyone dislosing the product of wiretaps etc. Public pillory for anyone caught violating a citizen's right to privacy; secret commendations, and silent mass gratitude, for NSAniks who keep the peace and the international temperature at a tolerable-for-human-life dull red or lower. Doug Maisel